July 2014 - xwiki-devs@xwiki.org

[xwiki-devs] XWiki Day: what do you want?
by vincent＠massol.net 21 Aug '14

21 Aug '14

Hi, What XWiki Day would you like to have today? See ideas at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/XWikiDays#HIdeasofXWikiDays Thanks -Vincent

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[xwiki-devs] [Discussion] The way we display events in Activity Stream
by Eduard Moraru 18 Aug '14

18 Aug '14

Hi devs, As some of you might have already seen, as part of the AS investigation for 6.2, I have made a small analysis on the way we display events. As this document [1] shows, we have 2 issues here: 1) What events do we display in AS (user generated, application generated, messages, etc...) 2) How do we display the events (Page focused, User focused, Timeslot focused) Please let me know on your opinions, as I consider it is a good time to review our initial choices and maybe end up with a clearer and consistent mechanism of handling user-level events in XWiki overall. Thanks, Eduard ---------- [1] http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AcitvityStreamRefactoring62…

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[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Set Flamingo as the default skin in 6.2
by Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

Hi devs. I propose to set Flamingo by default in 6.2. It is not fully finished though: - It is not HTML5 valid: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7552 & http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10616 - and some jiras are still opened: http://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=component%20%3D%20%22Flamingo%20skin%22%2… I hope I would be able to do http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10676 in the meantime. WDYT? Guillaume

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[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Integrate Font-Awesome in XE
by Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

Hi devs. I propose you to integrate Font Awesome [1] in XE, in order to be used by Flamingo. I need this because glyphicons (which is distributed with bootstrap) is not enough for our needs [2]. Some alternatives have also been listed [2]. FYI, I have also started a mapping between silk icons and Font Awesome icons [3]. You can also take a look to the licence [4], which seems to be LGPL compatible. Here is my +1. Thanks, Guillaume [1] http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/ [2] http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppBarIcons [3] http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IconSet [4] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL

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[xwiki-devs] AngularJS review by someone who uses it at work.
by Caleb James DeLisle 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Since Marius wrote the FileManager application using AngularJS and there has been some discussion about making increasing use of it in XWiki, I wanted to share a review by someone who uses it in his job as their entire platform. These are advantages and disadvantages which I determined from the chat: + Easy and efficient workflow (when you know it) + Testing is easy and well understood + Debugging is not difficult, thanks to Angular's popularity and integrated software + Separates model and view well (makes angular apps skinable). - Owns your system, if angular dies you die with it - Learning curve - Though it separates your model and view well, you can't test your model and controller without a DOM present (he's not sure of this). Although I think we need to keep investigating, I feel that Angular warrants more investigation. Thanks, Caleb PS: And the actual conversation, including some useful links: 16:31 < cjd> gimme teh infoz 16:32 < SomeoneWeird> well, there's a lot of (maybe too much) magic going on behind the scenes 16:32 < SomeoneWeird> all the DI stuff, scope tracking 16:32 < SomeoneWeird> sticking one broken thing in the digest loop will kill the entire app 16:32 < cjd> /nod 16:32 < SomeoneWeird> but.. once you know how it works, it's great 16:33 < SomeoneWeird> it's entire stdlib is all promises (which I don't care for, but because it's ALL promises, it makes it a breeze to work with) 16:33 < SomeoneWeird> plus, the DI system is awsm 16:33 < cjd> ok 16:34 < SomeoneWeird> scoping it out because you wanna use it? 16:34 < cjd> xwiki is interested in it 16:34 < cjd> do you use it as a system to control your entire app or as a library? 16:34 < SomeoneWeird> it's our entire thing 16:34 < cjd> ok 16:34 < SomeoneWeird> our CMS is built up of multiple angular apps 16:34 < SomeoneWeird> which are nested 16:35 < cjd> how is it for debugging? 16:36 < SomeoneWeird> not terrible, the errors it gives up are sometimes broken (but we're using a slightly outdated version), but there's also batarang, which is a cool ext. so you can view scope contents in your browser 16:36 < SomeoneWeird> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/angularjs-batarang/ighdmehidhipcm… 16:36 < cjd> ok 16:37 < SomeoneWeird> oh, testing 16:37 < SomeoneWeird> is awesome 16:37 < cjd> you can unit test in node ? 16:37 < SomeoneWeird> built in mocking support for everything in build in libraries 16:37 < SomeoneWeird> cjd: probably, using phantom or something 16:38 < cjd> ok, so you need a DOM to test 16:38 < SomeoneWeird> hm 16:38 < SomeoneWeird> i think 16:38 < cjd> ok 16:38 < SomeoneWeird> we're using karma at work 16:39 < cjd> explain? 16:39 < SomeoneWeird> http://karma-runner.github.io/0.12/index.html 16:39 < SomeoneWeird> check the vid 16:39 < cjd> ok 16:39 < SomeoneWeird> it's a test runner for browser tests 16:39 < SomeoneWeird> i think you can do headless stuff with it too 16:39 < cjd> how is the seperation between your models and the views? 16:40 < cjd> (is it skinnable?) 16:40 < SomeoneWeird> skinnable? 16:40 < cjd> could you write a new <fakehtml> view for a widget 16:41 < SomeoneWeird> yes 16:41 < cjd> so put a new skin on that widget 16:41 < SomeoneWeird> directives 16:41 < cjd> ok and you don't need to tinker with your model or controller code to do that? 16:41 < SomeoneWeird> models & views are pretty seperated, html can be completely declarative if you want 16:41 < cjd> ok 16:42 < SomeoneWeird> http://www.sitepoint.com/practical-guide-angularjs-directives/ 16:42 < cjd> so summary: 16:42 < SomeoneWeird> so you can define <hello>, and then bind that to a model etc 16:42 < cjd> + easy and efficient workflow (when you know it) 16:42 < SomeoneWeird> but they're seperate until you do 16:42 < cjd> + testing is easy and well understood 16:43 < cjd> + debugging is not difficult, thanks to angular's popularity and integrated software 16:43 < SomeoneWeird> there is a definite learning curve though 16:44 < cjd> - Owns your system, if angular dies you die with it 16:44 < SomeoneWeird> especially if people are used to using jquery etc 16:44 < cjd> - Learning curve 16:44 < cjd> - Though it seperates your model and view well, you can't test your model and controller without a DOM present. 16:45 < cjd> anything to add? 16:45 < SomeoneWeird> i'm not 100% sure on the last point 16:45 < cjd> ok 16:45 < cjd> can I publish this conversation? 16:46 < SomeoneWeird> i guess, hopefully I'm not wrong about anything >.> 16:46 < cjd> ok :) 16:48 < SomeoneWeird> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1rbz0h/is_angularjs_worth_developin… 16:48 < SomeoneWeird> good points in here

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[xwiki-devs] [UX] Wiki - Space - Page concepts pitch
by Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Hi, We did some usability testing sessions and found out that one of the biggest problems users are facing is that they don't understand the Home - Wiki - Space - Page concepts. Because of this confusion: - they are creating a wiki instead of a space or a page, - they don't know where they are located when looking at a page (in the main wiki or in a subwiki), - they don't know how to navigate to the pages they've created, - very confused that we have a Main space in every wiki, - they are having a hard time making a difference between a space and an application, - hard to understand everything is a page, - etc. We could do many things in order to improve our navigation, but one thing I want us to focus in this mail thread is the explanation of Wiki - Space - Page concepts on the Main.WebHome. Currently the content of the Welcome Block is: = Welcome to your wiki = > > It's an easy-to-edit website that will help you work better together. This > Wiki is made of //pages// sorted by //spaces//. You're currently in the > **Main** space, looking at its home page (**WebHome**). > > Learn how to use XWiki with the [[Getting Started Guide]] > You can then use the [[Sandbox space]] to try out your wiki's features. > I would like to replace this message with an introductory text that explain the concepts (there were also some ideas that maybe we need some images to represent the hierarchy, etc.) and I need your opinion on this subject. So, how would you pitch the Wiki - Space - Page concepts to newcomers? Thanks, Caty

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[xwiki-devs] Create a space dynamicaaly
by Firmusoft Xwiki 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

How can I create a space dynamically and set access rights? Thanks, Firmusoft

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[xwiki-devs] Health of the XWiki project
by vincent＠massol.net 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hi, FYI, I’ve completely modified the old XWiki Health Page at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ProjectHealth with new content and metrics. I’ve started doing some analysis of the metric data I’ve found but I’d like to discuss those with you all and see if we agree on the reasons for the values found and then together decide if we want to do something about it and what. Downloads ========= One worry I have is http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ProjectHealth#HDownloads It shows a reduction of downloads over the past 3 years, or, at best a stagnation. I’ve started the Active Installs module to get better feedback on this but at this moment it’s still to early since we have Active Installs history only since 6.1 (see the screenshot at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Active+Installs+Server…) So are we really stagnating? Any idea why? Mailing List Activity ===================== http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ProjectHealth#HMailingListsAc… Also going down. Any ideas? Am I reading these metrics right? Other ===== The other metrics are relatively ok. However I think these metrics show that the XWiki project is progressing at a stable rate both in term of usage (people using XWiki) and in term of code (# of commits, 1 of issues fixed every year, contributed code, etc). So the question raised are: - What could we do to increase the adoption speed of XWiki? - What could we do to increase the code progression rate? Which could be summed up as: what could we do to start having an exponential progression? I have some ideas but I’d like to hear from others first to see what they think. Thanks -Vincent

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[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Icon Themes
by Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hi xwikiers! Here a new proposal about Icon Themes, that I would like to introduce in XWiki 6.2. Issue: ------- In Colibri we use the "Silk" icons set. In Flamingo we want to use monochromatic icons (font-based icon set). But we don't want to break the retro-compatibility. This proposal is only about improvements to the XWiki Syntax in order to insert icons: eg: image:icon:accept The proposal is composed of A+B+C: A - Create an icon set for XWiki ------- As an API, XWiki proposes a selection of icons that developers can use. We ensure to not break the retro-compatibility. Actually, we do not create these icons. We bind them to existing ones (from silk or whatever). Example: - accept - cancel - wiki - user - pdf etc... B - Create an Icon Theme ------- Like the ColorThemes, we can create IconThemes. Concretly, for every icons proposed in A), we create a mapping to an icon from Silk, FontAwesome, or other icon sets. Theme1: accept: <img src="$xwiki.getSkinFile('silk/accept.png')" alt="accept"/> Theme2: accept: <i class="fa fa-check"></i> C - Bind the Wiki Syntax to the current icon theme ------- When a user writes: image:icon:accept it actually executes the mapping contained by the active IconTheme. Here is my +1. WDYT? Thanks, Guillaume

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[xwiki-devs] Tag in inline edit mode
by Danilo Oliveira 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hello People, I am trying to insert the tags div in my class made through appwithinminutes. I already have inserted in the end of the sheet the template: {{html}}#template('documentTags.vm'){{/html}} But it not worked well, the "OK" button event is conflicting with the preview button action. and it did not looked as well.See image attached. Any ideas? Is there a way to disable the preview button? Thanks -- Danilo Amaral de Oliveira Engenheiro de Computação celular (32) 9111 - 6867

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