[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Location for third-party extensions' content in XWiki Enterprise
According to the new decided strategy in http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization, third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it? Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options: 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours. Could we decide a new rule for this topic? Thanks, Alex
Hi Alex,
On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga <alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote:
According to the new decided strategy in http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization, third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it?
Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options:
1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1). Thanks -Vincent
Could we decide a new rule for this topic?
Thanks, Alex
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate it and other flavors can re-use it. 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga <alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote:
According to the new decided strategy in
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization ,
third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it?
Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options:
1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
Could we decide a new rule for this topic?
Thanks, Alex
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On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate it and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point. Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax). WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga <alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote:
According to the new decided strategy in
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization ,
third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it?
Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options:
1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
Could we decide a new rule for this topic?
Thanks, Alex
devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
-- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate it and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one. So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga <alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote:
According to the new decided strategy in
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization ,
third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it?
Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options:
1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
Could we decide a new rule for this topic?
Thanks, Alex
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is a solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm'. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote:
According to the new decided strategy in
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
,
third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it?
Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options:
1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
Could we decide a new rule for this topic?
Thanks, Alex
devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is a solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff). Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote:
According to the new decided strategy in
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
,
third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it?
Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options:
1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
Could we decide a new rule for this topic?
Thanks, Alex
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is a solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would
even
put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote: > > According to the new decided strategy in >
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
, > third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, > we would need some content from those extension to be available at build > time. Where could we put it? > > Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the > dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in > xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could > have the following options: > > 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours > 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours > 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours > 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword > would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future > cases > 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for > tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? > > Thanks, > Alex
devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Questions about the Homepage Tour: A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say hidden - since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to get him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so nit sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we tried to limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but Tour could be something interesting just for Admins). WDTY? Caty On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is a solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily
isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
> Hi Alex, > >> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> > wrote: >> >> According to the new decided strategy in >> >
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
> , >> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, >> we would need some content from those extension to be available at build >> time. Where could we put it? >> >> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in > the >> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we > could >> have the following options: >> >> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" > keyword >> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for > future >> cases >> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name > for >> tours. > > Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. > > The question is: > Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? > > My opinion: > * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the > subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for > example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). > > So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and > subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense > to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). > > We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say > 1). > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >> >> Thanks, >> Alex
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On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Questions about the Homepage Tour: A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say hidden - since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to get him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so nit sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we tried to limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but Tour could be something interesting just for Admins).
WDTY?
A - hidden (displayed in the tour app LT) B - No listed by default in the App panel Thanks -Vincent
Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is a solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
> > On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote: > > I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily
isolate
it
> and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
> 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>: > >> Hi Alex, >> >>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> According to the new decided strategy in >>> >>
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
>> , >>> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, >>> we would need some content from those extension to be available at build >>> time. Where could we put it? >>> >>> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in >> the >>> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >>> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we >> could >>> have the following options: >>> >>> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >>> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >>> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >>> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" >> keyword >>> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for >> future >>> cases >>> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name >> for >>> tours. >> >> Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. >> >> The question is: >> Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? >> >> My opinion: >> * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the >> subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for >> example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). >> >> So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and >> subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense >> to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). >> >> We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say >> 1). >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex
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Tour - some problems: - Apparently making it hidden, makes it disappear from the Tour Livetable; - Even if we mark the Homepage Tour as visible, in the Navigation panel we still see Tour.WebHome So, we either: 1. make as hidden all Tour instances + homepage (in order to not see it from the Navigation panel) = in this case we consider the Tour app to be a technical app (meant to help the user, but not user content) 2. leave them as is, but in this case, by default, users will see an additional space (Tour) + the Homepage Tour instance (which contains CSS selectors and steps) I would go with 1. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Questions about the Homepage Tour: A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say hidden - since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to get him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so nit sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we tried to limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but Tour could be something interesting just for Admins).
WDTY?
A - hidden (displayed in the tour app LT) B - No listed by default in the App panel
Thanks -Vincent
Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac@gmail.com>
wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour
is a
solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
wrote:
> >> >> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote: >> >> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate it >> and other flavors can re-use it. > > Indeed that’s a good point. > > Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax). > > WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
> Thanks > -Vincent > >> 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> According to the new decided strategy in >>>> >>>
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
>>> , >>>> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, >>>> we would need some content from those extension to be available at build >>>> time. Where could we put it? >>>> >>>> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in >>> the >>>> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >>>> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we >>> could >>>> have the following options: >>>> >>>> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >>>> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >>>> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >>>> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" >>> keyword >>>> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for >>> future >>>> cases >>>> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name >>> for >>>> tours. >>> >>> Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. >>> >>> The question is: >>> Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? >>> >>> My opinion: >>> * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the >>> subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for >>> example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). >>> >>> So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and >>> subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense >>> to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). >>> >>> We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say >>> 1). >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex
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On 30 Jun 2016, at 12:55, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Tour - some problems: - Apparently making it hidden, makes it disappear from the Tour Livetable; - Even if we mark the Homepage Tour as visible, in the Navigation panel we still see Tour.WebHome
So, we either: 1. make as hidden all Tour instances + homepage (in order to not see it from the Navigation panel) = in this case we consider the Tour app to be a technical app (meant to help the user, but not user content)
2. leave them as is, but in this case, by default, users will see an additional space (Tour) + the Homepage Tour instance (which contains CSS selectors and steps)
I would go with 1.
I’d still make it hidden but just modify the Tour LT to display hidden pages… We already do that elsewhere and it’s very easy to do. Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Questions about the Homepage Tour: A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say hidden - since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to get him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so nit sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we tried to limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but Tour could be something interesting just for Admins).
WDTY?
A - hidden (displayed in the tour app LT) B - No listed by default in the App panel
Thanks -Vincent
Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac@gmail.com>
wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour
is a
solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
> >> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < > guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote: >>> >>> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate > it >>> and other flavors can re-use it. >> >> Indeed that’s a good point. >> >> Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page > content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even > put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the > Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as > xwiki-platform-help-syntax). >> >> WDYT? > > Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a > dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one. > > So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < > alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> According to the new decided strategy in >>>>> >>>> >
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
>>>> , >>>>> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some > cases, >>>>> we would need some content from those extension to be available at > build >>>>> time. Where could we put it? >>>>> >>>>> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added > in >>>> the >>>>> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >>>>> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we >>>> could >>>>> have the following options: >>>>> >>>>> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >>>>> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >>>>> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >>>>> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" >>>> keyword >>>>> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for >>>> future >>>>> cases >>>>> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name >>>> for >>>>> tours. >>>> >>>> Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. >>>> >>>> The question is: >>>> Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? >>>> >>>> My opinion: >>>> * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the >>>> subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for >>>> example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). >>>> >>>> So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and >>>> subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes > sense >>>> to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). >>>> >>>> We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d > say >>>> 1). >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex
I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/TOUR-41 Mark Tour.WebHome and Tour instances as hidden http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/TOUR-42 Modify the Homepage Livetable to display Hidden pages Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 12:55, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Tour - some problems: - Apparently making it hidden, makes it disappear from the Tour Livetable; - Even if we mark the Homepage Tour as visible, in the Navigation panel we still see Tour.WebHome
So, we either: 1. make as hidden all Tour instances + homepage (in order to not see it from the Navigation panel) = in this case we consider the Tour app to be a technical app (meant to help the user, but not user content)
2. leave them as is, but in this case, by default, users will see an additional space (Tour) + the Homepage Tour instance (which contains CSS selectors and steps)
I would go with 1.
I’d still make it hidden but just modify the Tour LT to display hidden pages… We already do that elsewhere and it’s very easy to do.
Thanks -Vincent
since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to get him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so nit sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we tried to limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but Tour could be something interesting just for Admins).
WDTY?
A - hidden (displayed in the tour app LT) B - No listed by default in the App panel
Thanks -Vincent
Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
> On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac@gmail.com>
wrote: > > I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is a > solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that > could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future > we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing > the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they > could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, > Web Templates, etc.) > > xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to > xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to > provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and > if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the > 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time > you create a new subwiki. > I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but > we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
> Thanks, > Caty > > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol < vincent@massol.net> wrote: > >> >>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < >> guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate >> it >>>> and other flavors can re-use it. >>> >>> Indeed that’s a good point. >>> >>> Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page >> content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even >> put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the >> Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as >> xwiki-platform-help-syntax). >>> >>> WDYT? >> >> Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a >> dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one. >> >> So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>: >>>> >>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>> >>>>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < >> alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> According to the new decided strategy in >>>>>> >>>>> >>
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
>>>>> , >>>>>> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some >> cases, >>>>>> we would need some content from those extension to be available at >> build >>>>>> time. Where could we put it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added >> in >>>>> the >>>>>> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >>>>>> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we >>>>> could >>>>>> have the following options: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >>>>>> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >>>>>> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >>>>>> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" >>>>> keyword >>>>>> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for >>>>> future >>>>>> cases >>>>>> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name >>>>> for >>>>>> tours. >>>>> >>>>> Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. >>>>> >>>>> The question is: >>>>> Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? >>>>> >>>>> My opinion: >>>>> * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the >>>>> subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for >>>>> example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). >>>>> >>>>> So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and >>>>> subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes >> sense >>>>> to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). >>>>> >>>>> We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d >> say >>>>> 1). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>>> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Alex
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com
wrote:
Questions about the Homepage Tour: A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say hidden
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I agree with both actions. 2016-06-30 13:38 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com>:
I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/TOUR-41 Mark Tour.WebHome and Tour instances as hidden http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/TOUR-42 Modify the Homepage Livetable to display Hidden pages
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 12:55, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com
wrote:
Tour - some problems: - Apparently making it hidden, makes it disappear from the Tour
Livetable;
- Even if we mark the Homepage Tour as visible, in the Navigation panel we still see Tour.WebHome
So, we either: 1. make as hidden all Tour instances + homepage (in order to not see it from the Navigation panel) = in this case we consider the Tour app to
be
a
technical app (meant to help the user, but not user content)
2. leave them as is, but in this case, by default, users will see an additional space (Tour) + the Homepage Tour instance (which contains CSS selectors and steps)
I would go with 1.
I’d still make it hidden but just modify the Tour LT to display hidden pages… We already do that elsewhere and it’s very easy to do.
Thanks -Vincent
since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to get him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so nit sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we tried to limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but Tour could be something interesting just for Admins).
WDTY?
A - hidden (displayed in the tour app LT) B - No listed by default in the App panel
Thanks -Vincent
Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol < vincent@massol.net> wrote:
> >> On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is > a >> solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that >> could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the > future >> we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing >> the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since > they >> could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, >> Web Templates, etc.) >> >> xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to >> xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need > to >> provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions > and >> if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the >> 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every > time >> you create a new subwiki. >> I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, > but >> we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’. > > FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks > it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder > to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor > wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff). > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol < vincent@massol.net> > wrote: >> >>> >>>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>> guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily > isolate >>> it >>>>> and other flavors can re-use it. >>>> >>>> Indeed that’s a good point. >>>> >>>> Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page >>> content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would > even >>> put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the >>> Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as >>> xwiki-platform-help-syntax). >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>> >>> Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a >>> dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one. >>> >>> So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < >>> alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> According to the new decided strategy in >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac@gmail.com
wrote:
Questions about the Homepage Tour: A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say
hidden
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
>>>>>> , >>>>>>> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some >>> cases, >>>>>>> we would need some content from those extension to be available at >>> build >>>>>>> time. Where could we put it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be > added >>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >>>>>>> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, > we >>>>>> could >>>>>>> have the following options: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >>>>>>> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >>>>>>> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >>>>>>> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" >>>>>> keyword >>>>>>> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for >>>>>> future >>>>>>> cases >>>>>>> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific > name >>>>>> for >>>>>>> tours. >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. >>>>>> >>>>>> The question is: >>>>>> Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? >>>>>> >>>>>> My opinion: >>>>>> * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when > the >>>>>> subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org > for >>>>>> example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). >>>>>> >>>>>> So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki > and >>>>>> subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it > makes >>> sense >>>>>> to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). >>>>>> >>>>>> We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d >>> say >>>>>> 1). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>> >>>>>>> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Alex
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On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
I would use singular xwiki-enterprise-tour to be in sync with other module names. But if you insist, I’ll just be +0 ;) Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour is a solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would
even
put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
> Hi Alex, > >> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> > wrote: >> >> According to the new decided strategy in >> >
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
> , >> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, >> we would need some content from those extension to be available at build >> time. Where could we put it? >> >> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in > the >> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we > could >> have the following options: >> >> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" > keyword >> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for > future >> cases >> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name > for >> tours. > > Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. > > The question is: > Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? > > My opinion: > * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the > subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for > example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). > > So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and > subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense > to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). > > We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say > 1). > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >> >> Thanks, >> Alex
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2016-06-30 11:16 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com>:
In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki.
So much complications while it's so quick and easy to close an undesired tour...
I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm'.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would
even
put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote:
According to the new decided strategy in
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
,
third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, we would need some content from those extension to be available at build time. Where could we put it?
Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could have the following options:
1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future cases 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
Could we decide a new rule for this topic?
Thanks, Alex
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
2016-06-30 11:16 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com>:
In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki.
So much complications while it's so quick and easy to close an undesired tour...
If the user starts dismissing the Tour because he gets spammed by them, then it means he doesn't read them, then it means we failed to help him. Thanks, Caty
I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm'.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily
isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote: > > According to the new decided strategy in >
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
, > third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, > we would need some content from those extension to be available at build > time. Where could we put it? > > Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the > dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in > xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could > have the following options: > > 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours > 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours > 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours > 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword > would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future > cases > 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for > tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? > > Thanks, > Alex
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On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Guillaume Delhumeau <guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
2016-06-30 11:16 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com>:
In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki.
So much complications while it's so quick and easy to close an undesired tour…
I don’t agree with you Guillaume. The worse thing to do is annoy the user. They’ll hold a grudge against you and reflect on their value of XWiki. I’d use the logic I mentioned in my previous email (ie farm use case vs intranet use case). Thanks -Vincent
I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but
we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm'.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate
it
and other flavors can re-use it.
Indeed that’s a good point.
Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would
even
put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax).
WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi Alex,
> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < alexandru.cotiuga@xwiki.com> wrote: > > According to the new decided strategy in >
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
, > third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, > we would need some content from those extension to be available at build > time. Where could we put it? > > Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in the > dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in > xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we could > have the following options: > > 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours > 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours > 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours > 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" keyword > would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for future > cases > 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name for > tours.
Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor.
The question is: Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page?
My opinion: * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example).
So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)).
We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say 1).
Thanks -Vincent
> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? > > Thanks, > Alex
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