[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Include Cycle release notes in the RN LT
Hi devs, This is especially for Caty who created: * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki8x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki9x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki10x/Summa... Right now these summaries don’t appear on https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ I’m proposing to simply add a ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobject to them so that they can appear in the RN LT, and to use the following xproperty values: * Product: XWiki * Version: 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, 10.x * Is released: true * Release Date: 31/12/<year> The alternative is more complex and involves creating a new XClass for Cycle Summaries and modifying the home page to list cycle summaries in a LT (so that it can scale). Of course we could also do a lightweight version by simply having a link on the home page to a cycle summary page listing links to individual summaries. It would be less visible but could be acceptable. However, the best and easiest is for me to add the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobjects to Cycle RN pages. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
Sounds ok. I just want to let you know that regarding cycles, there are 2 pages: * 1 archive page that has like a toc of links to all the releases in the cycle + link to summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/ * 1 that contains the summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar... If we were not to add this xobject, alternatively we could manually list the cycle archive page, but I guess the xobject is a more scalable solution. Thanks, Caty On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is especially for Caty who created: * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki8x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki9x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki10x/Summa...
Right now these summaries don’t appear on https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/
I’m proposing to simply add a ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobject to them so that they can appear in the RN LT, and to use the following xproperty values:
* Product: XWiki * Version: 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, 10.x * Is released: true * Release Date: 31/12/<year>
The alternative is more complex and involves creating a new XClass for Cycle Summaries and modifying the home page to list cycle summaries in a LT (so that it can scale). Of course we could also do a lightweight version by simply having a link on the home page to a cycle summary page listing links to individual summaries. It would be less visible but could be acceptable. However, the best and easiest is for me to add the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobjects to Cycle RN pages.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
Hi Caty,
On 17 Dec 2018, at 13:03, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds ok.
I just want to let you know that regarding cycles, there are 2 pages: * 1 archive page that has like a toc of links to all the releases in the cycle + link to summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/
Yes I’ve seen this page but I don’t feel it’s very interesting. I think it’s duplicating the existing LT and doesn’t add a lot of value. I’d be in favor of dropping it. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
* 1 that contains the summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
If we were not to add this xobject, alternatively we could manually list the cycle archive page, but I guess the xobject is a more scalable solution.
Thanks, Caty
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is especially for Caty who created: * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki8x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki9x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki10x/Summa...
Right now these summaries don’t appear on https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/
I’m proposing to simply add a ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobject to them so that they can appear in the RN LT, and to use the following xproperty values:
* Product: XWiki * Version: 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, 10.x * Is released: true * Release Date: 31/12/<year>
The alternative is more complex and involves creating a new XClass for Cycle Summaries and modifying the home page to list cycle summaries in a LT (so that it can scale). Of course we could also do a lightweight version by simply having a link on the home page to a cycle summary page listing links to individual summaries. It would be less visible but could be acceptable. However, the best and easiest is for me to add the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobjects to Cycle RN pages.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
I don't want to drop it, since it helped me have a grouped release notes per cycle. Especially since it contains release from when the Release Notes app didn't existed (< 8.2). Also you cannot make the livetable "Version" filter say: "start with 8.", since you will also have results like "10.8" if you are filtering for "8.x". So these pages list only the valid releases and in the correct order. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
On 17 Dec 2018, at 13:03, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds ok.
I just want to let you know that regarding cycles, there are 2 pages: * 1 archive page that has like a toc of links to all the releases in the cycle + link to summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/
Yes I’ve seen this page but I don’t feel it’s very interesting. I think it’s duplicating the existing LT and doesn’t add a lot of value. I’d be in favor of dropping it. WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
* 1 that contains the summary, example:
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
If we were not to add this xobject, alternatively we could manually list the cycle archive page, but I guess the xobject is a more scalable solution.
Thanks, Caty
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
wrote:
Hi devs,
This is especially for Caty who created: *
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki8x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki9x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki10x/Summa...
Right now these summaries don’t appear on https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/
I’m proposing to simply add a ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobject to them so that they can appear in the RN LT, and to use the following xproperty values:
* Product: XWiki * Version: 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, 10.x * Is released: true * Release Date: 31/12/<year>
The alternative is more complex and involves creating a new XClass for Cycle Summaries and modifying the home page to list cycle summaries in
a LT
(so that it can scale). Of course we could also do a lightweight version by simply having a link on the home page to a cycle summary page listing links to individual summaries. It would be less visible but could be acceptable. However, the best and easiest is for me to add the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobjects to Cycle RN pages.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
Hi Caty,
On 18 Dec 2018, at 11:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want to drop it, since it helped me have a grouped release notes per cycle.
I really don’t see the need, could you explain?
Especially since it contains release from when the Release Notes app didn't existed (< 8.2). Also you cannot make the livetable "Version" filter say: "start with 8.", since you will also have results like "10.8" if you are filtering for "8.x". So these pages list only the valid releases and in the correct order.
Honestly this is overkill and I’m pretty sure that it’s ok for users.They can type “8.” for ex and even if that would match “6.4.8”, it’s very much usable IMO. Regarding RN for versions < 8.2, there’s already a RN Archives page here: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Archives So what you have put for 7.x, 8.x and 9.x is already a duplicate of what we have at https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Archives ;) My only point is that we shouldn’t reinvent the wheel. If you want to improve the RN app then cool but please let’s not redo it! :) Thanks -Vincent
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
On 17 Dec 2018, at 13:03, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds ok.
I just want to let you know that regarding cycles, there are 2 pages: * 1 archive page that has like a toc of links to all the releases in the cycle + link to summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/
Yes I’ve seen this page but I don’t feel it’s very interesting. I think it’s duplicating the existing LT and doesn’t add a lot of value. I’d be in favor of dropping it. WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
* 1 that contains the summary, example:
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
If we were not to add this xobject, alternatively we could manually list the cycle archive page, but I guess the xobject is a more scalable solution.
Thanks, Caty
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
wrote:
Hi devs,
This is especially for Caty who created: *
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki8x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki9x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki10x/Summa...
Right now these summaries don’t appear on https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/
I’m proposing to simply add a ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobject to them so that they can appear in the RN LT, and to use the following xproperty values:
* Product: XWiki * Version: 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, 10.x * Is released: true * Release Date: 31/12/<year>
The alternative is more complex and involves creating a new XClass for Cycle Summaries and modifying the home page to list cycle summaries in
a LT
(so that it can scale). Of course we could also do a lightweight version by simply having a link on the home page to a cycle summary page listing links to individual summaries. It would be less visible but could be acceptable. However, the best and easiest is for me to add the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobjects to Cycle RN pages.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
Hi Caty, If you think it’s important to see all RN for a cycle, we could implement what I mentioned, ie a second LT showing only cycles (and thus introduce a new xobject). Let me know what you think and whether it’s overkill or not? Thanks -Vincent
Le 18 déc. 2018 à 13:51, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> a écrit :
Hi Caty,
On 18 Dec 2018, at 11:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want to drop it, since it helped me have a grouped release notes per cycle.
I really don’t see the need, could you explain?
Especially since it contains release from when the Release Notes app didn't existed (< 8.2). Also you cannot make the livetable "Version" filter say: "start with 8.", since you will also have results like "10.8" if you are filtering for "8.x". So these pages list only the valid releases and in the correct order.
Honestly this is overkill and I’m pretty sure that it’s ok for users.They can type “8.” for ex and even if that would match “6.4.8”, it’s very much usable IMO.
Regarding RN for versions < 8.2, there’s already a RN Archives page here: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Archives
So what you have put for 7.x, 8.x and 9.x is already a duplicate of what we have at https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Archives ;)
My only point is that we shouldn’t reinvent the wheel. If you want to improve the RN app then cool but please let’s not redo it! :)
Thanks -Vincent
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
On 17 Dec 2018, at 13:03, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds ok.
I just want to let you know that regarding cycles, there are 2 pages: * 1 archive page that has like a toc of links to all the releases in the cycle + link to summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/
Yes I’ve seen this page but I don’t feel it’s very interesting. I think it’s duplicating the existing LT and doesn’t add a lot of value. I’d be in favor of dropping it. WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
* 1 that contains the summary, example: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
If we were not to add this xobject, alternatively we could manually list the cycle archive page, but I guess the xobject is a more scalable solution.
Thanks, Caty
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is especially for Caty who created: * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki8x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki9x/Summar... * https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki10x/Summa...
Right now these summaries don’t appear on https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/
I’m proposing to simply add a ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobject to them so that they can appear in the RN LT, and to use the following xproperty values:
* Product: XWiki * Version: 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, 10.x * Is released: true * Release Date: 31/12/<year>
The alternative is more complex and involves creating a new XClass for Cycle Summaries and modifying the home page to list cycle summaries in a LT (so that it can scale). Of course we could also do a lightweight version by simply having a link on the home page to a cycle summary page listing links to individual summaries. It would be less visible but could be acceptable. However, the best and easiest is for me to add the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobjects to Cycle RN pages.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
I've added the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobject to the 7.x - 10.x summary pages. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:13 AM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
If you think it’s important to see all RN for a cycle, we could implement what I mentioned, ie a second LT showing only cycles (and thus introduce a new xobject). Let me know what you think and whether it’s overkill or not?
Thanks -Vincent
Le 18 déc. 2018 à 13:51, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> a écrit :
Hi Caty,
On 18 Dec 2018, at 11:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want to drop it, since it helped me have a grouped release notes per cycle.
I really don’t see the need, could you explain?
Especially since it contains release from when the Release Notes app didn't existed (< 8.2). Also you cannot make the livetable "Version" filter say: "start with 8.", since you will also have results like "10.8" if you are filtering for "8.x". So these pages list only the valid releases and in the correct order.
Honestly this is overkill and I’m pretty sure that it’s ok for users.They can type “8.” for ex and even if that would match “6.4.8”, it’s very much usable IMO.
Regarding RN for versions < 8.2, there’s already a RN Archives page here: https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Archives
So what you have put for 7.x, 8.x and 9.x is already a duplicate of what we have at https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Archives ;)
My only point is that we shouldn’t reinvent the wheel. If you want to improve the RN app then cool but please let’s not redo it! :)
Thanks -Vincent
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Caty,
On 17 Dec 2018, at 13:03, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sounds ok.
I just want to let you know that regarding cycles, there are 2 pages: * 1 archive page that has like a toc of links to all the releases in the cycle + link to summary, example:
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/
Yes I’ve seen this page but I don’t feel it’s very interesting. I think it’s duplicating the existing LT and doesn’t add a lot of value. I’d be in favor of dropping it. WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
* 1 that contains the summary, example:
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
If we were not to add this xobject, alternatively we could manually
list
the cycle archive page, but I guess the xobject is a more scalable solution.
Thanks, Caty
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is especially for Caty who created: *
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki7x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki8x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki9x/Summar...
*
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki10x/Summa...
Right now these summaries don’t appear on https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/
I’m proposing to simply add a ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass
xobject
to them so that they can appear in the RN LT, and to use the following xproperty values:
* Product: XWiki * Version: 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, 10.x * Is released: true * Release Date: 31/12/<year>
The alternative is more complex and involves creating a new XClass for Cycle Summaries and modifying the home page to list cycle summaries in a LT (so that it can scale). Of course we could also do a lightweight version by simply having a link on the home page to a cycle summary page listing links to individual summaries. It would be less visible but could be acceptable. However, the best and easiest is for me to add the ReleaseNotes.Code.ReleaseNoteClass xobjects to Cycle RN pages.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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Vincent Massol