[xwiki-devs] stupid fixed background scroll bug in FF3
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer) regards Pascal
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
Works fine for me with FF3 on a Mac. Who has this problem? Thanks -Vincent
Vincent Massol wrote:
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
Works fine for me with FF3 on a Mac.
Who has this problem?
It's a Linux thing, if I know / remember well. At least it happens on my Ubuntu(s) and I've heard other distro users complain about the same thing. Seems to be the ff (not only 3) CSS implementation under Linux, but we need to investigate more. Happy coding, Anca Luca
Thanks -Vincent
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Vincent Massol wrote:
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
Works fine for me with FF3 on a Mac.
Who has this problem?
I have too. Gentoo Linux / amd64 on both xf86-video-nv-2.1.9 and nvidia-drivers-173.14.09 video drivers. -- Artem Melentyev
Vincent Massol wrote:
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
Works fine for me with FF3 on a Mac.
Who has this problem?
Me. It's not caused by one piece of software, but by a combination of elements. For example, using the open source Mesa driver is way slower than using proprietary drivers from NVidia or ATI, and the intel driver doesn't show slow downs at all. It's much worse on Ubuntu than on Gentoo. On Opera it is perfect, regardless of the environment. I'm also annoyed by this, and was planning to investigate this further to see if anything fixed causes slowdowns, or it's also triggered by the kind of image (png, with or without transparency). I'm saying this because Albatross is faster, and it also has the fixed menu, but with different images. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Vincent Massol wrote:
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer) Works fine for me with FF3 on a Mac.
Who has this problem?
Me. It's not caused by one piece of software, but by a combination of elements. For example, using the open source Mesa driver is way slower than using proprietary drivers from NVidia or ATI, and the intel driver doesn't show slow downs at all. It's much worse on Ubuntu than on Gentoo. On Opera it is perfect, regardless of the environment.
It's perfect on Flock on Linux too, which makes it a little strange since Flock uses the same engine as Ff, afaik.
I'm also annoyed by this, and was planning to investigate this further to see if anything fixed causes slowdowns, or it's also triggered by the kind of image (png, with or without transparency). I'm saying this because Albatross is faster, and it also has the fixed menu, but with different images.
Hello Xwikians, Yes I Do. I use Ubuntu Linux 64bit and this is no Issue on Windows. The issue was also in FF2. I could improve this Issue a little by using Beta Drivers from NVidia. Apparently they have some issues too with 2D Hardware acceleration in Linux (and a lot complains about it). See this: http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088 greetings Jonas Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
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Jonas von Malottki wrote:
Hello Xwikians,
Yes I Do. I use Ubuntu Linux 64bit and this is no Issue on Windows. The issue was also in FF2.
32bit behaves the same
I could improve this Issue a little by using Beta Drivers from NVidia. Apparently they have some issues too with 2D Hardware acceleration in Linux (and a lot complains about it). See this: http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088
greetings Jonas
Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
regards Pascal _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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yes I'm 32bits with AMD64 (i know, this is a bit stupid but i had too many issues with Java64 and eclipse and ubuntu 8.04)... I think this might be linked to nvidia drivers and as anyone knows, nvidia can't code drivers :) but this is also a specific issue of FF because epiphany works fine... Anyway, this might be a shame to see people not using xwiki because of this :( Pascal On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Anca Paula Luca <ancapaula.luca@xwiki.com>wrote:
Jonas von Malottki wrote:
Hello Xwikians,
Yes I Do. I use Ubuntu Linux 64bit and this is no Issue on Windows. The issue was also in FF2.
32bit behaves the same
I could improve this Issue a little by using Beta Drivers from NVidia. Apparently they have some issues too with 2D Hardware acceleration in Linux (and a lot complains about it). See this: http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088
greetings Jonas
Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header
menu...
It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
regards Pascal _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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Pascal Voitot wrote:
yes I'm 32bits with AMD64 (i know, this is a bit stupid but i had too many issues with Java64 and eclipse and ubuntu 8.04)...
ARRR... These Flashbacks.. can't control them... must resist.... 100%ACK Eclipse runs perfectly when using the IBM JDK 64 bit plus increasing some Parameters to extreme values. Even works with Ganymede and Europa. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/ But it was a long way until I came to this solution. Anyway it is not a Problem to use the Sun JDK as the default development JDK as long as Eclipse itself runs on the IBM JRE.
I think this might be linked to nvidia drivers and as anyone knows, nvidia can't code drivers :) Agree... Even though 2 Monitor solution works better with proprietary than with open drivers or those shipped with Ubuntu.
but this is also a specific issue of FF because epiphany works fine... Anyway, this might be a shame to see people not using xwiki because of this :(
Mhh Konqueror and Opera do not suffer that much, but you will still notice it, depending on the Site structure/complexity. Meaning http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome is a little bit faster in scrolling than http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ or http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Screenshots for instance Greetings Jonas
We had this already once on the list... See here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/125970 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Jonas von Malottki <yoshtec@gmx.net> wrote:
Pascal Voitot wrote:
yes I'm 32bits with AMD64 (i know, this is a bit stupid but i had too many issues with Java64 and eclipse and ubuntu 8.04)...
ARRR... These Flashbacks.. can't control them... must resist.... 100%ACK
Eclipse runs perfectly when using the IBM JDK 64 bit plus increasing some Parameters to extreme values. Even works with Ganymede and Europa. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/
But it was a long way until I came to this solution. Anyway it is not a Problem to use the Sun JDK as the default development JDK as long as Eclipse itself runs on the IBM JRE.
I think this might be linked to nvidia drivers and as anyone knows, nvidia can't code drivers :) Agree... Even though 2 Monitor solution works better with proprietary than with open drivers or those shipped with Ubuntu.
but this is also a specific issue of FF because epiphany works fine... Anyway, this might be a shame to see people not using xwiki because of this :(
Mhh Konqueror and Opera do not suffer that much, but you will still notice it, depending on the Site structure/complexity. Meaning http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome is a little bit faster in scrolling than http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ or http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Screenshots for instance
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Hi Pascal, The new JDK 1.6 u10 seems quite stable on 64bit. I had lots of issues with all former Sun JDKs on 64bit with Eclipse. Until recently I was using the IBM JDK for starting Eclipse, but after some stable Days with the new JDK and Eclipse I guess it's safe to recommend it. cheers Jonas Pascal Voitot wrote:
yes I'm 32bits with AMD64 (i know, this is a bit stupid but i had too many issues with Java64 and eclipse and ubuntu 8.04)... I think this might be linked to nvidia drivers and as anyone knows, nvidia can't code drivers :) but this is also a specific issue of FF because epiphany works fine... Anyway, this might be a shame to see people not using xwiki because of this :(
Pascal
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Anca Paula Luca <ancapaula.luca@xwiki.com>wrote:
Jonas von Malottki wrote:
Hello Xwikians,
Yes I Do. I use Ubuntu Linux 64bit and this is no Issue on Windows. The issue was also in FF2. 32bit behaves the same
I could improve this Issue a little by using Beta Drivers from NVidia. Apparently they have some issues too with 2D Hardware acceleration in Linux (and a lot complains about it). See this: http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088
greetings Jonas
Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header menu... It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you because this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :) (if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
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thks I will try that asap :) On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Jonas von Malottki <yoshtec@gmx.net>wrote:
Hi Pascal,
The new JDK 1.6 u10 seems quite stable on 64bit. I had lots of issues with all former Sun JDKs on 64bit with Eclipse. Until recently I was using the IBM JDK for starting Eclipse, but after some stable Days with the new JDK and Eclipse I guess it's safe to recommend it.
cheers Jonas
Pascal Voitot wrote:
yes I'm 32bits with AMD64 (i know, this is a bit stupid but i had too many issues with Java64 and eclipse and ubuntu 8.04)... I think this might be linked to nvidia drivers and as anyone knows, nvidia can't code drivers :) but this is also a specific issue of FF because epiphany works fine... Anyway, this might be a shame to see people not using xwiki because of this :(
Pascal
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Anca Paula Luca <ancapaula.luca@xwiki.com>wrote:
Jonas von Malottki wrote:
Hello Xwikians,
Yes I Do. I use Ubuntu Linux 64bit and this is no Issue on Windows. The issue was also in FF2.
32bit behaves the same
I could improve this Issue a little by using Beta Drivers from NVidia.
Apparently they have some issues too with 2D Hardware acceleration in Linux (and a lot complains about it). See this: http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088
greetings Jonas
Pascal Voitot wrote:
Hello, has anybody the same slow and choppy scrolling issue under Firefox3 with XWiki? Apparently this is linked to the fixed CSS background for the header
menu...
It doesn't appear on all hardware/OS configurations but lots of people
complain about it. As XWiki uses a fixed background by default, I preferred warning you
because
this is really a pain using xwiki under FF3 on my computer :)
(if you remove the "fixed" CSS field, it works betteeeeeeeer)
regards Pascal _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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