[xwiki-devs] [UX][Proposal] Distribution Wizard: Never Button
Hi devs, This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from Distribution Wizard. https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/ I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me know which one is your favorite. My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location. Thanks, Caty
Both VAR1 and VAR2 look good to me. Thanks, Marius On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 5:49 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from Distribution Wizard. https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/
I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me know which one is your favorite.
My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location.
Thanks, Caty
Hi Caty, Thanks for this. Actually the screenshot you have at https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/W... is not the only issue for me. The problem I had was on the flavor screen because you need to click “install” at the top and not click “never” which is at the bottom right, see https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di... To be more precise I was expecting to select the flavor and click “Install” at the bottom right. Does your proposal address this issue? Would be great to see the Flavor screen with your new proposal. VAR1 and 2 look nice. VAR2 seems a bit more explicit. Thanks -Vincent
On 17 Oct 2018, at 16:49, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from Distribution Wizard. https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/
I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me know which one is your favorite.
My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location.
Thanks, Caty
Hi Vincent, This proposal doesn't apply to the "Install" button, since there are steps where there is not just a single button. Each Wiki or Flavor could have their own "Install", so that's why the position is related to each type of entity, see an example of multiple "Upgrade" buttons https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di... or in the case of extensions, see https://network.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/download/DocXE981En/XEAttachments/Invali... Thanks, Caty On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:16 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
Thanks for this.
Actually the screenshot you have at https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/W... is not the only issue for me.
The problem I had was on the flavor screen because you need to click “install” at the top and not click “never” which is at the bottom right, see https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
To be more precise I was expecting to select the flavor and click “Install” at the bottom right.
Does your proposal address this issue? Would be great to see the Flavor screen with your new proposal.
VAR1 and 2 look nice. VAR2 seems a bit more explicit.
Thanks -Vincent
On 17 Oct 2018, at 16:49, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from Distribution Wizard. https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/
I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me know which one is your favorite.
My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location.
Thanks, Caty
On 17 Oct 2018, at 17:46, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Vincent,
This proposal doesn't apply to the "Install" button, since there are steps where there is not just a single button. Each Wiki or Flavor could have their own "Install", so that's why the position is related to each type of entity, see an example of multiple "Upgrade" buttons https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di... or in the case of extensions, see https://network.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/download/DocXE981En/XEAttachments/Invali...
ok. We could have not button at all on the bottom right for the flavor screen for ex. It’s not clear how VAR1 & 2 would looklike for the flavor screen. No button in the bottom right corner, right? (which is fine with me). Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:16 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
Thanks for this.
Actually the screenshot you have at https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/W... is not the only issue for me.
The problem I had was on the flavor screen because you need to click “install” at the top and not click “never” which is at the bottom right, see https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
To be more precise I was expecting to select the flavor and click “Install” at the bottom right.
Does your proposal address this issue? Would be great to see the Flavor screen with your new proposal.
VAR1 and 2 look nice. VAR2 seems a bit more explicit.
Thanks -Vincent
On 17 Oct 2018, at 16:49, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from Distribution Wizard. https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/
I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me know which one is your favorite.
My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location.
Thanks, Caty
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:58 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 17 Oct 2018, at 17:46, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Vincent,
This proposal doesn't apply to the "Install" button, since there are steps where there is not just a single button. Each Wiki or Flavor could have their own "Install", so that's why the position is related to each type of entity, see an example of multiple "Upgrade" buttons
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
or in the case of extensions, see
https://network.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/download/DocXE981En/XEAttachments/Invali...
ok. We could have not button at all on the bottom right for the flavor screen for ex.
It’s not clear how VAR1 & 2 would looklike for the flavor screen. No button in the bottom right corner, right? (which is fine with me).
Well the VAR1 and VAR2 only refer to the Later/Never/Skip actions. In theory the "Continue" would still stay there. I don't know how mandatory is the presence of the "Continue" button in this wikis case. I guess you could continue the wizard, without doing the upgrades now and continue in each wiki separately. So the "Continue" is still a valid action. The issue is that it has the same visual importance as "Upgrade" and it provide an easy get away for the user, so the user might click it and not complete the needed steps. Another problem is that we don't have an "Upgrade all" button ( https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-15633) so in case we would have more wikis / extensions, we would need to press on each of them. A solution would be to have the "Upgrade all" near the "Continue".
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:16 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Caty,
Thanks for this.
Actually the screenshot you have at
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/W...
is not the only issue for me.
The problem I had was on the flavor screen because you need to click “install” at the top and not click “never” which is at the bottom right, see
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
To be more precise I was expecting to select the flavor and click “Install” at the bottom right.
Does your proposal address this issue? Would be great to see the Flavor screen with your new proposal.
VAR1 and 2 look nice. VAR2 seems a bit more explicit.
Thanks -Vincent
On 17 Oct 2018, at 16:49, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi devs,
This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from
Distribution
Wizard.
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/
I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me know which one is your favorite.
My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location.
Thanks, Caty
On 17 Oct 2018, at 18:10, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:58 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 17 Oct 2018, at 17:46, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Vincent,
This proposal doesn't apply to the "Install" button, since there are steps where there is not just a single button. Each Wiki or Flavor could have their own "Install", so that's why the position is related to each type of entity, see an example of multiple "Upgrade" buttons
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
or in the case of extensions, see
https://network.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/download/DocXE981En/XEAttachments/Invali...
ok. We could have not button at all on the bottom right for the flavor screen for ex.
It’s not clear how VAR1 & 2 would looklike for the flavor screen. No button in the bottom right corner, right? (which is fine with me).
Well the VAR1 and VAR2 only refer to the Later/Never/Skip actions.
If you check the flavor screen at https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di... you’ll see it has "later" and “never” so I think it applies to this screen too, no? Thanks -Vincent
In theory the "Continue" would still stay there. I don't know how mandatory is the presence of the "Continue" button in this wikis case. I guess you could continue the wizard, without doing the upgrades now and continue in each wiki separately. So the "Continue" is still a valid action. The issue is that it has the same visual importance as "Upgrade" and it provide an easy get away for the user, so the user might click it and not complete the needed steps.
Another problem is that we don't have an "Upgrade all" button ( https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-15633) so in case we would have more wikis / extensions, we would need to press on each of them. A solution would be to have the "Upgrade all" near the "Continue".
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:16 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Caty,
Thanks for this.
Actually the screenshot you have at
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/W...
is not the only issue for me.
The problem I had was on the flavor screen because you need to click “install” at the top and not click “never” which is at the bottom right, see
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
To be more precise I was expecting to select the flavor and click “Install” at the bottom right.
Does your proposal address this issue? Would be great to see the Flavor screen with your new proposal.
VAR1 and 2 look nice. VAR2 seems a bit more explicit.
Thanks -Vincent
On 17 Oct 2018, at 16:49, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi devs,
This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from
Distribution
Wizard.
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/
I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me know which one is your favorite.
My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location.
Thanks, Caty
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:13 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 17 Oct 2018, at 18:10, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:58 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 17 Oct 2018, at 17:46, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Vincent,
This proposal doesn't apply to the "Install" button, since there are
steps
where there is not just a single button. Each Wiki or Flavor could have their own "Install", so that's why the position is related to each type of entity, see an example of multiple "Upgrade" buttons
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
or in the case of extensions, see
https://network.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/download/DocXE981En/XEAttachments/Invali...
ok. We could have not button at all on the bottom right for the flavor screen for ex.
It’s not clear how VAR1 & 2 would looklike for the flavor screen. No button in the bottom right corner, right? (which is fine with me).
Well the VAR1 and VAR2 only refer to the Later/Never/Skip actions.
If you check the flavor screen at https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di... you’ll see it has "later" and “never” so I think it applies to this screen too, no?
In this particular screen, the "later"/ "never" would be replaced by a "Skip" button, placed in the left side (the opposite from their current location).
Thanks -Vincent
In theory the "Continue" would still stay there. I don't know how
mandatory
is the presence of the "Continue" button in this wikis case. I guess you could continue the wizard, without doing the upgrades now and continue in each wiki separately. So the "Continue" is still a valid action. The issue is that it has the same visual importance as "Upgrade" and it provide an easy get away for the user, so the user might click it and not complete the needed steps.
Another problem is that we don't have an "Upgrade all" button ( https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-15633) so in case we would have more wikis / extensions, we would need to press on each of them. A solution would be to have the "Upgrade all" near the "Continue".
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:16 PM Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Caty,
Thanks for this.
Actually the screenshot you have at
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/W...
is not the only issue for me.
The problem I had was on the flavor screen because you need to click “install” at the top and not click “never” which is at the bottom right, see
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/Di...
To be more precise I was expecting to select the flavor and click “Install” at the bottom right.
Does your proposal address this issue? Would be great to see the
Flavor
screen with your new proposal.
VAR1 and 2 look nice. VAR2 seems a bit more explicit.
Thanks -Vincent
On 17 Oct 2018, at 16:49, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi devs,
This is an improvements proposal for the "Never" button from
Distribution
Wizard.
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Upgrade/DWNeverButton/
I've listed several variants of fixing the usability issue, let me
know
which one is your favorite.
My +1 goes to VAR2: Confirmation; with minimum we can do being VAR1: Location.
Thanks, Caty
participants (3)
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Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Vincent Massol