[xwiki-devs] [VOTE] What to do with RawBlock in plain text renderer ?
Hi devs, We need to decide what to do with html macro content (or any other RawBlock content) in plain text renderer. For me the rule of plain text renderer should be to print anything we are able to print which mean printing any pure text content and skip styles for which obviously we don't have syntax. RawBlock content is pure text so we should print it. Note that first version of plain text renderer was printing html content and it was lost when introducing RawBlock. Here is my +1 for printing RawBlock content in plain text renderer. WDYT ? -- Thomas Mortagne
See http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-4105 On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:52, Thomas Mortagne<thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
We need to decide what to do with html macro content (or any other RawBlock content) in plain text renderer.
For me the rule of plain text renderer should be to print anything we are able to print which mean printing any pure text content and skip styles for which obviously we don't have syntax. RawBlock content is pure text so we should print it.
Note that first version of plain text renderer was printing html content and it was lost when introducing RawBlock.
Here is my +1 for printing RawBlock content in plain text renderer.
WDYT ?
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne
Hi devs, my need of the plain text renderer is to produce a formatting/tags free version of an XWiki document, something like "what the user sees in the html version but without the tags". So one idea would be that the plain text renderer handles the *raw blocks depending on their syntax*: we first should make it render the 'plain text' raw blocks, because it's supposed to know plain text and then we could think about adding a HTML syntax handler which would strip out tags and only print the text in the HTML (useful for my usecase above). Also other syntaxes could be added if we think that it makes sense. However, there isn't really a very good reason for which a PlaintextRenderer would know about HTML. It really depends on how we define the purpose of the plain text renderer. WDYT? Happy hacking, Anca tmortagne wrote:
Hi devs,
We need to decide what to do with html macro content (or any other RawBlock content) in plain text renderer.
For me the rule of plain text renderer should be to print anything we are able to print which mean printing any pure text content and skip styles for which obviously we don't have syntax. RawBlock content is pure text so we should print it.
Note that first version of plain text renderer was printing html content and it was lost when introducing RawBlock.
Here is my +1 for printing RawBlock content in plain text renderer.
WDYT ?
-- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:21, lucaa <ancapaula.luca@xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
my need of the plain text renderer is to produce a formatting/tags free version of an XWiki document, something like "what the user sees in the html version but without the tags".
So one idea would be that the plain text renderer handles the *raw blocks depending on their syntax*: we first should make it render the 'plain text' raw blocks, because it's supposed to know plain text and then we could think about adding a HTML syntax handler which would strip out tags and only print the text in the HTML (useful for my usecase above). Also other syntaxes could be added if we think that it makes sense.
However, there isn't really a very good reason for which a PlaintextRenderer would know about HTML. It really depends on how we define the purpose of the plain text renderer.
I tough of it a little and i think we could have something like a ContentCleaner (or ContentFilter, SyntaxFilter, RawFilter; RawCleaner, ...) component interface used by the plain text renderer to filter raw block content. Then XHTML module provide an implementation of ContentCleaner for xhtml. That would avoid having plain text renderer strongly depends on any specific syntax and still able to support any syntax which provide the right cleaner/filter.
WDYT?
Happy hacking, Anca
tmortagne wrote:
Hi devs,
We need to decide what to do with html macro content (or any other RawBlock content) in plain text renderer.
For me the rule of plain text renderer should be to print anything we are able to print which mean printing any pure text content and skip styles for which obviously we don't have syntax. RawBlock content is pure text so we should print it.
Note that first version of plain text renderer was printing html content and it was lost when introducing RawBlock.
Here is my +1 for printing RawBlock content in plain text renderer.
WDYT ?
-- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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-- Thomas Mortagne
Hi Thomas, On 11/24/2009 02:58 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:21, lucaa<ancapaula.luca@xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
my need of the plain text renderer is to produce a formatting/tags free version of an XWiki document, something like "what the user sees in the html version but without the tags".
However, I don't think I can use that in my case, I found some additional issues and I'm thinking about changing the strategy completely, so it's not really needed right now anymore.
So one idea would be that the plain text renderer handles the *raw blocks depending on their syntax*: we first should make it render the 'plain text' raw blocks, because it's supposed to know plain text and then we could think about adding a HTML syntax handler which would strip out tags and only print the text in the HTML (useful for my usecase above). Also other syntaxes could be added if we think that it makes sense.
However, there isn't really a very good reason for which a PlaintextRenderer would know about HTML. It really depends on how we define the purpose of the plain text renderer.
I tough of it a little and i think we could have something like a ContentCleaner (or ContentFilter, SyntaxFilter, RawFilter; RawCleaner, ...) component interface used by the plain text renderer to filter raw block content. Then XHTML module provide an implementation of ContentCleaner for xhtml. That would avoid having plain text renderer strongly depends on any specific syntax and still able to support any syntax which provide the right cleaner/filter.
Basically a RawBlockPlainTextRenderer, implemented by syntax modules (like XHTML) and invoked by the PlainTextRenderer to render plain text for every RawBlock depending on its syntax. Sounds pretty coherent to me, +1 Happy hacking, Anca
WDYT?
Happy hacking, Anca
tmortagne wrote:
Hi devs,
We need to decide what to do with html macro content (or any other RawBlock content) in plain text renderer.
For me the rule of plain text renderer should be to print anything we are able to print which mean printing any pure text content and skip styles for which obviously we don't have syntax. RawBlock content is pure text so we should print it.
Note that first version of plain text renderer was printing html content and it was lost when introducing RawBlock.
Here is my +1 for printing RawBlock content in plain text renderer.
WDYT ?
-- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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