Hi, My +1 goes to 1) since I think the templates feature was mostly designed for pages, rather then spaces. Currently we support space templates, but theoretically all they do is set the space.WebHome to have a certain template. Now, we are lacking a bit usage statistics on space-templates and page-templates. How often are they used? Could we display them together? Is it necessary to have a separation between them when we enumerate them? Thanks, Caty On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Now that we are moving to Nested Documents, there is the question of what do we do with the existing space and page templates[1]? How do we (still) display them?

In the new create UI we will be showing just the option to create a Nested Document, but for advanced users, we might also show the option to create a terminal document (NS-style i.e. document in a space).

Since a ND translates to a space WebHome in the NS approach (or previous approach), we could reuse any existing space templates and display them instead of page templates.

Existing page templates were built with the NS approach in mind and I am concerned that, until the app that provides them does not migrate them to space templates (i.e. ND-compatible), we risk breaking their functionality (?). This might now be valid for page templates manually created by the admins that might have no issues since they are content focused and not processed by any application.

Until they are migrated, we could just show page templates only when creating terminal documents, as an advanced user.

So the options I see are:

1) Show both space and page templates when creating ND and only page templates when creating terminal pages, hoping most of them will work most of the time.

2) Show only space templates when creating ND and only page templates when creating terminal pages, but risk hiding a lot of useful page templates from regular users which would work most of the time.

My +1 goes to 1).

WDYT?

Thanks, Eduard

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Hi, On 30 Jun 2015 at 12:43:03, Eduard Moraru (enygma2002@gmail.com(mailto:enygma2002@gmail.com)) wrote:

Hi,

Now that we are moving to Nested Documents, there is the question of what do we do with the existing space and page templates[1]? How do we (still) display them?

In the new create UI we will be showing just the option to create a Nested Document, but for advanced users, we might also show the option to create a terminal document (NS-style i.e. document in a space).

Since a ND translates to a space WebHome in the NS approach (or previous approach), we could reuse any existing space templates and display them instead of page templates.

Existing page templates were built with the NS approach in mind and I am concerned that, until the app that provides them does not migrate them to space templates (i.e. ND-compatible), we risk breaking their functionality (?). This might now be valid for page templates manually created by the admins that might have no issues since they are content focused and not processed by any application.

Until they are migrated, we could just show page templates only when creating terminal documents, as an advanced user.

So the options I see are:

1) Show both space and page templates when creating ND and only page templates when creating terminal pages, hoping most of them will work most of the time.

2) Show only space templates when creating ND and only page templates when creating terminal pages, but risk hiding a lot of useful page templates from regular users which would work most of the time.

My +1 goes to 1).

WDYT?

2 comments: 1) The template feature is to be able to create a new Blog post, a new FAQ entry, a new Release Notes page, etc. This feature is still valid in NS or ND. When I create a new Blog post, I don’t need it to be a terminal page and it probably shouldn’t be. In any case that should be controlled by the checkbox in the Add Page dialog: * if the user creates a terminal page then we apply the template to the terminal page * if the user creates a non terminal page then we apply the template to the WebHome page that we create I don’t see any difference from what we do now (except that the create code needs to be updated to support NS/ND) so I’m probably missing the point :) 2) I agree we should drop the Space Template notion and instead when specifying a template page, have an option to also copy the children pages. In this manner, when the user does Add > Page and applies the template we copy the template page + its children. Of course if the user chooses to create a terminal page then either we refuse to apply the template or better, we give a warning saying that the children template pages won’t be copied.  Thus for now, the user would only be able to control the name of the parent page he creates and the children names would be the same name as in the template structure. In the future we could imagine offering some algorithm to name children pages. WDYT? BTW -0 to -1 to show Space template since we’re removing the concept of Space from the UI. Thanks -Vincent

Thanks, Eduard

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