See below, On 11/2/09 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

Hello all,

Following the initial discussion at http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a vote to move on and create the contrib project.

After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent, here is what I propose :

1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create : - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as initial content for it's Main.WebHome - List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also refactor a little this page using the content at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform now belongs to the list). - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the following architecture : contrib/ |__people/ |__projects/ |__retired/ |__sandbox/

*people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is behind is to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is that people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will be composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for example "jvelociter". *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.) *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's now replaced by the XEclipse top level project. *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired ones that will go straight to california).

Projects currently in sandbox I see good candidates for a direct promotion as "projects/" under the new contrib repo : - applications/xwiki-application-faq/ - applications/xwiki-application-meetingmanager/ - applications/xwiki-application-multipageexport/ - applications/xwiki-application-qa/ - applications/xwiki-application-recruitmentmanager/ - applications/xwiki-macro-todo/ - xwiki-application-ratings/ + plugins/ratings - plugins/collection - plugins/excel Projects I see should go directly in "retired/" : - agilepm/ - com.xpn.xwiki.wikimodel/ (obsoleted by the new rendering engine) - formeditor/ - jcrstore/ - org.xwiki.*/ (obsoleted by the XEclipse TLP) - xunit/ <http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/com.xpn.xwiki.wikimodel/> - xwiki-clients/ - xwiki-core-rest/ (obsolete, REST is now committed in core) Jerome.

2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox" and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our installation as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose the other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).

Here is my +1

Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to make the move during the week.

Thanks, Jerome. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

Hello all,

Following the initial discussion at http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a vote to move on and create the contrib project.

After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent, here is what I propose :

1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create : - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as initial content for it's Main.WebHome

I would rephrase: "The XWiki Contrib Project provides facilities for contributed projects that relates to XWiki products and projects. It is the privileged (but not mandatory) infrastructure for projects contributed on code.xwiki.org : modules, macros, plugins, and so" as: "The XWiki Contrib Project provides hosting for projects related to XWiki. These projects are not part of the official XWiki distributions and are not maintained by the XWiki development team." And: "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/ and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category" as: "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/ and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category. Note that there will be a generic JIRA project to be used by all projects till they achieve a first release or till they grow to a size significant enough to warrant a dedicated JIRA project" For: "Project pages on code.xwiki.org to describe and document the project." One issue is that code.xwiki.org is about finished and usable stuff IMO. So a first version should have been released before a page is put there IMO. In the meantime projects could use contrib.xwiki.org. Actually I'd prefer that all contrib projects use contrib.xwiki.org (possibly using the classes from code.xwiki.org) and that they are aggregated on code.xwiki.org. In the same manner (to be symmetric) I'd prefer that content on code.xwiki.org that belongs to the platform be moved to platform.xwiki.org and be aggregated on code.xwiki.org For: "Simply send us an email at devs AT xwiki.org with the name and a description of your project (pointing us to its page on code.xwiki.org in the event it is already contributed here) and let us know which of the listed tools you need." I'd suggest to use "[Contrib]" in the mail's title + not create pages on code.xwiki.org (especially if they're drafts) as mentioned in the point above.

- List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also refactor a little this page using the content at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform now belongs to the list).

I've slightly reworded some elements of the page (product --> project). Also we need to move the chronopolys source code to this svn.

- Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the following architecture : contrib/ |__people/ |__projects/ |__retired/ |__sandbox/

*people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is behind is to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is that people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will be composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for example "jvelociter". *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.) *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's now replaced by the XEclipse top level project. *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired ones that will go straight to california).

2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox" and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our installation as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose the other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).

These guidelines should be put on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome too.

Here is my +1

Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to make the move during the week.

+1 too and I can help. Note that this means removing the current Sandbox (i.e. http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/ + http://sandbox.xwiki.org) for those who haven't fully read :) Thanks -Vincent

+1 On 11/02/2009 10:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

Hello all,

Following the initial discussion at http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a vote to move on and create the contrib project.

After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent, here is what I propose :

1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create : - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as initial content for it's Main.WebHome - List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also refactor a little this page using the content at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform now belongs to the list). - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the following architecture : contrib/ |__people/ |__projects/ |__retired/ |__sandbox/

*people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is behind is to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is that people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will be composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for example "jvelociter". *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.) *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's now replaced by the XEclipse top level project. *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired ones that will go straight to california).

2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox" and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our installation as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose the other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).

Here is my +1

Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to make the move during the week.

Thanks, Jerome. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs