[xwiki-devs] [Contrib] Demo flavor
Hi, I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension. The idea is that: - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight. So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib: To start with: - Blog - File Manager - Meeting Manager - Forum - Task Manager - Idea - FAQ - Diagram In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: * Navigation panel on the left * App bar on the right * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page) WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades. So I’m only proposing the first version below. Future versions could have: * Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though) Thanks -Vincent On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net (vincent@massol.net(mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Hi,
I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension.
The idea is that: - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight.
So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib:
To start with: - Blog - File Manager - Meeting Manager - Forum - Task Manager - Idea - FAQ - Diagram
In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: * Navigation panel on the left * App bar on the right * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page)
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column. Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour ( http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently. Thanks, 2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net <vincent@massol.net>:
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades.
So I’m only proposing the first version below.
Future versions could have:
* Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though)
Thanks -Vincent
On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net (vincent@massol.net(mailto: vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Hi,
I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension.
The idea is that: - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight.
So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib:
To start with: - Blog - File Manager - Meeting Manager - Forum - Task Manager - Idea - FAQ - Diagram
In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: * Navigation panel on the left * App bar on the right * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page)
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour ( http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items. Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades.
So I’m only proposing the first version below.
Future versions could have:
* Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though)
Thanks -Vincent
On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net (vincent@massol.net(mailto: vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Hi,
I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension.
The idea is that: - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight.
So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib:
To start with: - Blog - File Manager - Meeting Manager - Forum - Task Manager - Idea - FAQ - Diagram
In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: * Navigation panel on the left * App bar on the right * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page)
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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-- Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Hi, +1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications. In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned. Regarding Applications: - there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar - some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users -- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com (mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour ( http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades.
So I’m only proposing the first version below.
Future versions could have:
* Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though)
Thanks -Vincent
On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net (vincent@massol.net (mailto: vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Hi,
I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension.
The idea is that: - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight.
So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib:
To start with: - Blog - File Manager - Meeting Manager - Forum - Task Manager - Idea - FAQ - Diagram
In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: * Navigation panel on the left * App bar on the right * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page)
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac@gmail.com(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
Regarding Applications: - there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative. Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com (mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour ( http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades.
So I’m only proposing the first version below.
Future versions could have:
* Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though)
Thanks -Vincent
On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net (vincent@massol.net (mailto: vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Hi,
I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension.
The idea is that: - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight.
So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib:
To start with: - Blog - File Manager - Meeting Manager - Forum - Task Manager - Idea - FAQ - Diagram
In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: * Navigation panel on the left * App bar on the right * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page)
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
Hi, big +1 with the idea! On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, vincent@massol.net <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac@gmail.com (mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
I think having the navigation on the left is better. On almost all content websites I know about, treeview navigation is located on the left. You have the current page highlighted, and the content of the page itself is next to it. So I feel that having the tree view on the right would be counter-intuitive for most users, whereas the app bar is less context-sensitive.
Regarding Applications:
- there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Yep, that one is good too! Not so sure about the Diagram app however, I haven't used it nor seen it used recently. Thanks, Guillaume
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative.
Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com (mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application)
to
demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades.
So I’m only proposing the first version below.
Future versions could have:
* Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though)
Thanks -Vincent
On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net (vincent@massol.net (mailto: vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Hi,
I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension.
The idea is that: - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight.
So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib:
To start with: - Blog - File Manager - Meeting Manager - Forum - Task Manager - Idea - FAQ - Diagram
In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: * Navigation panel on the left * App bar on the right * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page)
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <guillaume@xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi,
big +1 with the idea!
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, vincent@massol.net <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac@gmail.com (mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
I think having the navigation on the left is better. On almost all content websites I know about, treeview navigation is located on the left. You have the current page highlighted, and the content of the page itself is next to it.
So I feel that having the tree view on the right would be counter-intuitive for most users, whereas the app bar is less context-sensitive.
Regarding Applications:
- there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Yep, that one is good too! Not so sure about the Diagram app however, I haven't used it nor seen it used recently.
I'm not sure about the Diagram application either because there are a few issues reported and I stopped maintaining it since draw.io has changed its Open Source license. I would still like to integrate an Open Source drawing/diagramming library in XWiki, but I lack the time to do it.. +1 for the Demo flavor. Thanks, Marius
Thanks,
Guillaume
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and
I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative.
Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com
(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to
demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades.
So I’m only proposing the first version below.
Future versions could have:
* Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though)
Thanks -Vincent
On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net ( vincent@massol.net (mailto: vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
> Hi, > > I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension. > > The idea is that: > - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org > - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight. > > So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib: > > To start with: > - Blog > - File Manager > - Meeting Manager > - Forum > - Task Manager > - Idea > - FAQ > - Diagram > > In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: > * Navigation panel on the left > * App bar on the right > * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page) > > WDYT? > > Thanks > -Vincent >
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Hi Guillaume/Caty, On 21 Jan 2016 at 15:48:49, Guillaume Lerouge (guillaume@xwiki.com(mailto:guillaume@xwiki.com)) wrote:
Hi,
big +1 with the idea!
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac@gmail.com (mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
I think having the navigation on the left is better. On almost all content websites I know about, treeview navigation is located on the left. You have the current page highlighted, and the content of the page itself is next to it.
So I feel that having the tree view on the right would be counter-intuitive for most users, whereas the app bar is less context-sensitive.
There’s an issue with this. If you navigate to the Blog app or the File Manager app (for example), you see the app bar displayed on the left :) Thanks -Vincent
Regarding Applications:
- there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Yep, that one is good too! Not so sure about the Diagram app however, I haven't used it nor seen it used recently.
Thanks,
Guillaume
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative.
Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com (mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application)
to
demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades.
So I’m only proposing the first version below.
Future versions could have:
* Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real installable extensions though)
Thanks -Vincent
On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net (vincent@massol.net (mailto: vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
> Hi, > > I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor extension. > > The idea is that: > - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on playground.xwiki.org > - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen overnight. > > So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib: > > To start with: > - Blog > - File Manager > - Meeting Manager > - Forum > - Task Manager > - Idea > - FAQ > - Diagram > > In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: > * Navigation panel on the left > * App bar on the right > * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page) > > WDYT? > > Thanks > -Vincent >
Hi, On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:24 PM, vincent@massol.net <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Guillaume/Caty,
On 21 Jan 2016 at 15:48:49, Guillaume Lerouge (guillaume@xwiki.com(mailto: guillaume@xwiki.com)) wrote:
Hi,
big +1 with the idea!
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (
valicac@gmail.com
(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
I think having the navigation on the left is better. On almost all content websites I know about, treeview navigation is located on the left. You have the current page highlighted, and the content of the page itself is next to it.
So I feel that having the tree view on the right would be counter-intuitive for most users, whereas the app bar is less context-sensitive.
There’s an issue with this. If you navigate to the Blog app or the File Manager app (for example), you see the app bar displayed on the left :)
We could put the app bar on the right and the specific panels on the left for both those apps. Guillaume
Thanks -Vincent
Regarding Applications:
- there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Yep, that one is good too! Not so sure about the Diagram app however, I haven't used it nor seen it used recently.
Thanks,
Guillaume
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and
I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative.
Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com
(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to
demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
> FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means > installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades. > > So I’m only proposing the first version below. > > Future versions could have: > > * Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) > * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real > installable extensions though) > > Thanks > -Vincent > > On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net ( vincent@massol.net (mailto: > vincent@massol.net)) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor > extension. > > > > The idea is that: > > - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on > playground.xwiki.org > > - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime > only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users > testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW > screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the > community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen > overnight. > > > > So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number > of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib: > > > > To start with: > > - Blog > > - File Manager > > - Meeting Manager > > - Forum > > - Task Manager > > - Idea > > - FAQ > > - Diagram > > > > In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: > > * Navigation panel on the left > > * App bar on the right > > * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one > under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page) > > > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > >
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On 10 Feb 2016 at 16:28:10, Guillaume Lerouge (guillaume@xwiki.com) wrote: Hi, On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:24 PM, vincent@massol.net <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Guillaume/Caty,
On 21 Jan 2016 at 15:48:49, Guillaume Lerouge (guillaume@xwiki.com(mailto: guillaume@xwiki.com)) wrote:
Hi,
big +1 with the idea!
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (
valicac@gmail.com
(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
I think having the navigation on the left is better. On almost all content websites I know about, treeview navigation is located on the left. You have the current page highlighted, and the content of the page itself is next to it.
So I feel that having the tree view on the right would be counter-intuitive for most users, whereas the app bar is less context-sensitive.
There’s an issue with this. If you navigate to the Blog app or the File Manager app (for example), you see the app bar displayed on the left :)
We could put the app bar on the right and the specific panels on the left for both those apps. That wouldn’t work. We’d first need to decide to have the app bar on the right for all spaces, not just for those apps. Right now the best would for Extensions to not define panel position in their WebPreferences and instead to display a dashboard on their home page. In the future, we should fine a way for Extensions to say that they’re contributing Panels without saying where they should be displayed and then have the Global Admin of the wiki display an Admin UI that decides where to display panels contributed by Extensions with a default. Thanks -Vincent Guillaume
Thanks -Vincent
Regarding Applications:
- there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Yep, that one is good too! Not so sure about the Diagram app however, I haven't used it nor seen it used recently.
Thanks,
Guillaume
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and
I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative.
Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com
(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to
demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
> FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means > installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades. > > So I’m only proposing the first version below. > > Future versions could have: > > * Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) > * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real > installable extensions though) > > Thanks > -Vincent > > On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net ( vincent@massol.net (mailto: > vincent@massol.net)) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor > extension. > > > > The idea is that: > > - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on > playground.xwiki.org > > - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime > only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users > testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW > screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the > community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen > overnight. > > > > So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number > of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib: > > > > To start with: > > - Blog > > - File Manager > > - Meeting Manager > > - Forum > > - Task Manager > > - Idea > > - FAQ > > - Diagram > > > > In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: > > * Navigation panel on the left > > * App bar on the right > > * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one > under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page) > > > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > >
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:24 PM, vincent@massol.net <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Guillaume/Caty,
On 21 Jan 2016 at 15:48:49, Guillaume Lerouge (guillaume@xwiki.com(mailto: guillaume@xwiki.com)) wrote:
Hi,
big +1 with the idea!
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (
valicac@gmail.com
(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
I think having the navigation on the left is better. On almost all content websites I know about, treeview navigation is located on the left. You have the current page highlighted, and the content of the page itself is next to it.
So I feel that having the tree view on the right would be counter-intuitive for most users, whereas the app bar is less context-sensitive.
There’s an issue with this. If you navigate to the Blog app or the File Manager app (for example), you see the app bar displayed on the left :)
I don't know why the Appbar would be displayed since the WebPreferences for Blog or File Manager is not calling it. Blog has indeed custom right panels defined and that's normal. This is the case for other applications too, like Forum, Meetings, etc. In a Groupware Flavor the pattern is that the Appbar is on the left. We added custom panels for some apps. Now the problem comes from the fact that you want the Demo flavor to combine KnowledgeBase and Groupware Flavors. It's hard to put in the same location both navigation tree and appbar. I think we need to decide what is the main case. Thanks, Caty
Thanks -Vincent
Regarding Applications:
- there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Yep, that one is good too! Not so sure about the Diagram app however, I haven't used it nor seen it used recently.
Thanks,
Guillaume
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and
I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative.
Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com
(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column.
Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to
demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
Thanks,
2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net :
> FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means > installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades. > > So I’m only proposing the first version below. > > Future versions could have: > > * Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) > * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real > installable extensions though) > > Thanks > -Vincent > > On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net ( vincent@massol.net (mailto: > vincent@massol.net)) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor > extension. > > > > The idea is that: > > - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on > playground.xwiki.org > > - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime > only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users > testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW > screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the > community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen > overnight. > > > > So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number > of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib: > > > > To start with: > > - Blog > > - File Manager > > - Meeting Manager > > - Forum > > - Task Manager > > - Idea > > - FAQ > > - Diagram > > > > In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: > > * Navigation panel on the left > > * App bar on the right > > * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one > under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page) > > > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > >
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On 11 Feb 2016 at 16:07:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac@gmail.com(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:24 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
Hi Guillaume/Caty,
On 21 Jan 2016 at 15:48:49, Guillaume Lerouge (guillaume@xwiki.com(mailto: guillaume@xwiki.com)) wrote:
Hi,
big +1 with the idea!
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 14:47:51, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (
valicac@gmail.com
(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
+1 for the Demo Flavor - it's a good chance to demonstrate XWiki's capabilities and highlight nice applications.
In terms of layout we can switch the AppBar with the Navigation :) like Guillaume mentioned.
I think having the navigation on the left is better. On almost all content websites I know about, treeview navigation is located on the left. You have the current page highlighted, and the content of the page itself is next to it.
So I feel that having the tree view on the right would be counter-intuitive for most users, whereas the app bar is less context-sensitive.
There’s an issue with this. If you navigate to the Blog app or the File Manager app (for example), you see the app bar displayed on the left :)
I don't know why the Appbar would be displayed since the WebPreferences for Blog or File Manager is not calling it. Blog has indeed custom right panels defined and that's normal. This is the case for other applications too, like Forum, Meetings, etc.
Indeed, I think I mixed it up. It’s the App bar that disappears (if it’s in the right panels) since those apps overwrite the right panels. Meaning that we’re loosing the way to navigate to the apps.
In a Groupware Flavor the pattern is that the Appbar is on the left. We added custom panels for some apps.
Now the problem comes from the fact that you want the Demo flavor to combine KnowledgeBase and Groupware Flavors.
Hmm I’ve never said that, have I? :) Actually I’ve said the opposite: I’ve mentioned that the demo flavor should include a sizeable list of good extensions to showcase XWiki. So I’d prefer to have the app bar on the left for this use case actually. More precisely I think we should have the app bar at the same location as we have in the default flavor. Right now that’s on the left. Also I’m not sure if we need a nav panel since nav is supposed to be always available from the breadcrumb from everywhere. We do need a Tour to explain this though. But right now I’d like to release a first basic version of the demo flavor and have it installed on playground.xwiki.org. Thanks -Vincent
It's hard to put in the same location both navigation tree and appbar. I think we need to decide what is the main case.
Thanks, Caty
Thanks -Vincent
Regarding Applications:
- there are other nice applications on e.x.o, one example is http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/MoccaCalendar
Yep, that one is good too! Not so sure about the Diagram app however, I haven't used it nor seen it used recently.
Thanks,
Guillaume
Indeed I missed this one. I agree we should include it. I was looking at
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/CollaborativeApplications and
I just missed it for some reason, wasn’t voluntary :)
- some ideas for the future: -- we should use more the ratings system on e.x.o and add in this Demo Flavor the top extensions according to the ratings given by users
Sure, when we think that we have enough votes and they are representative.
Thanks -Vincent
-- or we could cycle the apps listed in the Demo Flavor and have 5-10 apps in a 6 months/year period, while switching them to highlight other apps. This way extension creators could be featured in the Demo Flavor. -- when we will have more Flavors listed by the community, the Demo Flavor could highlight a particular Flavor submitted by the community, featuring a particular use case: development, gaming KB, etc. :) this way we can demo the vast extensibility of XWiki :) sounds exciting :) but for now the proposed list is just fine.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, vincent@massol.net wrote:
On 21 Jan 2016 at 13:10:41, Guillaume Delhumeau (
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com
(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
> +1, I'm just not fan of having the app bar in the right column. > > Note: in the future, this flavor should integrate a tour ( > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application) to > demonstrate the power of XWiki. I'm working on this application currently.
Yes I agree. However I also think that this tour should be in the base flavor and that it should be extensible so that flavors could contribute additional tour items.
Thanks -vincent
> Thanks, > > 2016-01-21 12:13 GMT+01:00 vincent@massol.net : > > > FTR, for now I'm not proposing a multiwiki since that would means > > installing a new wiki and it's harder to manage upgrades. > > > > So I’m only proposing the first version below. > > > > Future versions could have: > > > > * Multiwiki (i.e. separate wiki) > > * Social logins installed by default (would need to make it a real > > installable extensions though) > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > On 21 Jan 2016 at 12:11:05, vincent@massol.net ( vincent@massol.net (mailto: > > vincent@massol.net)) wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I’d like to request a github repo in xwiki-contrib for a Demo flavor > > extension. > > > > > > The idea is that: > > > - since we want to demonstrate the power of xwiki on > > playground.xwiki.org > > > - and since the xwiki github org will focus on providing generic runtime > > only (made only with core extensions), it would be interesting for users > > testing xwiki to have a demo flavor that users can pick from on the DW > > screen (in addition to the default flavor). In the future we expect the > > community to create a lot more flavors but that’s for later, won’t happen > > overnight. > > > > > > So I’m proposing to create a demo flavor that includes a maximum number > > of high-quality extensions that we have in xwiki-contrib: > > > > > > To start with: > > > - Blog > > > - File Manager > > > - Meeting Manager > > > - Forum > > > - Task Manager > > > - Idea > > > - FAQ > > > - Diagram > > > > > > In addition, in term of layout I’m proposing: > > > * Navigation panel on the left > > > * App bar on the right > > > * A demo text on the home page and beneath the activity stream (one > > under another so that clicking edit makes it easy to update the page) > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > >
participants (5)
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Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) -
Guillaume Delhumeau -
Guillaume Lerouge -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
vincent@massol.net