So it seems that now every time we upgrade, permission are broken. I was able to fix them last time by reverting the UI upgrade (deleting all folders named "8%2E0"), but then the Distribution Wizard never ran. If the DW runs, our permissions are broken. If it doesn't, 8.0 / 8.1 works, but the UI is not updated. Keith Davis - MCSA, ZCE P.R.I.D.E. - I.T. Director / Senior Developer www.pridedallas.com<http://www.pridedallas.com/> Mobile (214) 906-5183