[xwiki-users] minimal xwiki configuration
I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty complex. I'd like users to see this: content (edit, print) search box minimal side bar backlinks (and not much more) Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the bare essentials? Thanks, Scott
Hi Scott, I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here. What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the panel wizard. Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout. You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change this, the same goes for the displayed search results. You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom of the page or not, etc. IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of what the endusers can see and are allowed to do. I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let me know. Kind regards and good luck, Wouter On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <serrs@theserrs.net> wrote:
I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty complex.
I'd like users to see this: content (edit, print) search box minimal side bar backlinks (and not much more)
Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the bare essentials?
Thanks, Scott _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hi guys, It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of stripping the default XE. Basically you have 2 approaches: 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no pages) 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not. Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than to create new stuff from nothing :) If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn them off/make them disappear. Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down xwiki! Thanks -Vincent On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Scott, I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here.
What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the panel wizard. Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout. You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change this, the same goes for the displayed search results. You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom of the page or not, etc.
IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let me know.
Kind regards and good luck,
Wouter
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <serrs@theserrs.net> wrote:
I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty complex.
I'd like users to see this: content (edit, print) search box minimal side bar backlinks (and not much more)
Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the bare essentials?
Thanks, Scott _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hi Vincent, Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use for content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold for people wanting to use xwiki. Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability and are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated. IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated allready. Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort them, and use them to create the guide? Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready? Because then we would create it accordingly. Thanks for the thoughts, Wouter On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of stripping the default XE.
Basically you have 2 approaches: 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no pages) 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not. Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than to create new stuff from nothing :)
If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn them off/make them disappear.
Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down xwiki!
Thanks -Vincent
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Scott, I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here.
What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the panel wizard. Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout. You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change this, the same goes for the displayed search results. You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom of the page or not, etc.
IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let me know.
Kind regards and good luck,
Wouter
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <serrs@theserrs.net> wrote:
I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty complex.
I'd like users to see this: content (edit, print) search box minimal side bar backlinks (and not much more)
Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
bare
essentials?
Thanks, Scott _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hi Wouter, On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use for content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold for people wanting to use xwiki.
Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability and are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.
IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated allready. Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort them, and use them to create the guide?
yep that's the idea.
Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/ Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it to the final location (AdminGuide): http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
Because then we would create it accordingly.
Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/ Thanks -Vincent
Thanks for the thoughts,
Wouter
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of stripping the default XE.
Basically you have 2 approaches: 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no pages) 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not. Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than to create new stuff from nothing :)
If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn them off/make them disappear.
Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down xwiki!
Thanks -Vincent
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Scott, I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here.
What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the panel wizard. Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout. You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change this, the same goes for the displayed search results. You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom of the page or not, etc.
IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let me know.
Kind regards and good luck,
Wouter
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <serrs@theserrs.net> wrote:
I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty complex.
I'd like users to see this: content (edit, print) search box minimal side bar backlinks (and not much more)
Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
bare
essentials?
Thanks, Scott
Hi, Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar packages to download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki according to the features we're looking for. Regards Guillaume 2011/9/8 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
Hi Wouter,
On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use for content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold for people wanting to use xwiki.
Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability and are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.
IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated allready. Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort them, and use them to create the guide?
yep that's the idea.
Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it to the final location (AdminGuide): http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
Because then we would create it accordingly.
Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks for the thoughts,
Wouter
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of stripping the default XE.
Basically you have 2 approaches: 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no pages) 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not. Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than to create new stuff from nothing :)
If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn them off/make them disappear.
Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down xwiki!
Thanks -Vincent
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Scott, I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here.
What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the panel wizard. Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout. You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change this, the same goes for the displayed search results. You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom of the page or not, etc.
IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let me know.
Kind regards and good luck,
Wouter
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <serrs@theserrs.net> wrote:
I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty complex.
I'd like users to see this: content (edit, print) search box minimal side bar backlinks (and not much more)
Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
bare
essentials?
Thanks, Scott
users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Guillaume Fenollar XWiki SysAdmin Tel : 01.83.62.65.97
Hi Guillaume, On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Guillaume Fenollar wrote:
Hi,
Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar packages to download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki according to the features we're looking for.
What you're talking about is the Exension Manager ;) … which already exists and which you can try in XE 3.2 (it's missing a nice UI but the features are there). We need the max # of people to try it out and report issue if any. Thanks -Vincent
Regards
Guillaume
2011/9/8 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>
Hi Wouter,
On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use for content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold for people wanting to use xwiki.
Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability and are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.
IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated allready. Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort them, and use them to create the guide?
yep that's the idea.
Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it to the final location (AdminGuide): http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
Because then we would create it accordingly.
Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks for the thoughts,
Wouter
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of stripping the default XE.
Basically you have 2 approaches: 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no pages) 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not. Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than to create new stuff from nothing :)
If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn them off/make them disappear.
Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down xwiki!
Thanks -Vincent
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Scott, I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here.
What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the panel wizard. Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout. You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change this, the same goes for the displayed search results. You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom of the page or not, etc.
IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of what the endusers can see and are allowed to do.
I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let me know.
Kind regards and good luck,
Wouter
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <serrs@theserrs.net> wrote:
I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty complex.
I'd like users to see this: content (edit, print) search box minimal side bar backlinks (and not much more)
Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
bare
essentials?
Thanks, Scott
users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Guillaume Fenollar XWiki SysAdmin Tel : 01.83.62.65.97 _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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