[xwiki-users] XWiki on Jelastic
Hi, I've experimented with Jelastic. To my pleasant surprise in their marketplace there is XWiki. It promises a click and run setup; that could help making XWiki popular. But the experience was very disappointing. I think this will actually damage popularity. What I noticed: * Jelastic marketplace XWiki is based on a Milestone Relase instead of a stable release. * It is deployed on a tomcat instance; but the settings are such that you get the Upgrade wizard quite conveniently (+++) but then clicking "install" results in a very slow (-----) process that, in my case, never succeeded in a up-and-running XWiki * The Tomcat log shows memory problems, and this is confirmed to the user with Elastic emails that Tomcat is reaching limits Would it not be useful if somebody from the community would configure a much better XWiki experience? My knowledge is not good enough to do the Administrator stuff required Gerritjan Koekkoek Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> email<gerritjan@cdlsworld.org>
Sounds like someone just picked the last version at some point and put that in the default Tomcat without any much setup... On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerritjan@cdlsworld.org> wrote:
Hi,
I've experimented with Jelastic. To my pleasant surprise in their marketplace there is XWiki.
It promises a click and run setup; that could help making XWiki popular.
But the experience was very disappointing. I think this will actually damage popularity.
What I noticed:
* Jelastic marketplace XWiki is based on a Milestone Relase instead of a stable release. * It is deployed on a tomcat instance; but the settings are such that you get the Upgrade wizard quite conveniently (+++) but then clicking "install" results in a very slow (-----) process that, in my case, never succeeded in a up-and-running XWiki * The Tomcat log shows memory problems, and this is confirmed to the user with Elastic emails that Tomcat is reaching limits
Would it not be useful if somebody from the community would configure a much better XWiki experience? My knowledge is not good enough to do the Administrator stuff required
Gerritjan Koekkoek Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> email<gerritjan@cdlsworld.org>
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-- Thomas Mortagne
What kind of resources were allocated to your sever? The minimum values allowed by Jelastic, in my experience, are inadequate to run Xwiki. Unfortunately their one-click install does not set the server up for you as well but this is not really expected. Regards, Jesse
On May 23, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerritjan@cdlsworld.org> wrote:
Hi,
I've experimented with Jelastic. To my pleasant surprise in their marketplace there is XWiki.
It promises a click and run setup; that could help making XWiki popular.
But the experience was very disappointing. I think this will actually damage popularity.
What I noticed:
* Jelastic marketplace XWiki is based on a Milestone Relase instead of a stable release. * It is deployed on a tomcat instance; but the settings are such that you get the Upgrade wizard quite conveniently (+++) but then clicking "install" results in a very slow (-----) process that, in my case, never succeeded in a up-and-running XWiki * The Tomcat log shows memory problems, and this is confirmed to the user with Elastic emails that Tomcat is reaching limits
Would it not be useful if somebody from the community would configure a much better XWiki experience? My knowledge is not good enough to do the Administrator stuff required
Gerritjan Koekkoek Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> email<gerritjan@cdlsworld.org>
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See http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Performances#HMemory On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Jesse Bright <jesse@abrightfamily.com> wrote:
What kind of resources were allocated to your sever? The minimum values allowed by Jelastic, in my experience, are inadequate to run Xwiki. Unfortunately their one-click install does not set the server up for you as well but this is not really expected.
Regards,
Jesse
On May 23, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerritjan@cdlsworld.org> wrote:
Hi,
I've experimented with Jelastic. To my pleasant surprise in their marketplace there is XWiki.
It promises a click and run setup; that could help making XWiki popular.
But the experience was very disappointing. I think this will actually damage popularity.
What I noticed:
* Jelastic marketplace XWiki is based on a Milestone Relase instead of a stable release. * It is deployed on a tomcat instance; but the settings are such that you get the Upgrade wizard quite conveniently (+++) but then clicking "install" results in a very slow (-----) process that, in my case, never succeeded in a up-and-running XWiki * The Tomcat log shows memory problems, and this is confirmed to the user with Elastic emails that Tomcat is reaching limits
Would it not be useful if somebody from the community would configure a much better XWiki experience? My knowledge is not good enough to do the Administrator stuff required
Gerritjan Koekkoek Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> email<gerritjan@cdlsworld.org>
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-- Thomas Mortagne
My question is: Would somebody like to volunteer to create a Jelastic market place configuration of Xwiki? This would help making XWIki more popular. I have no doubt it is possible to configure XWiki the manual way (like described in the administrator guide) but that would only help people who consider themselves technical enough to configure their own server....(i'm not seeing myself as such a person, I admire people that can configure a server) I think the Jelastic Market place targets a audience that currently will stick with the hosting offered by XWiki SAS or with the free Cloud option (on the farm) You just request a XWiki instance and you get back a username-password with that you can login as admin... How to make a XWiki marketplace app is described here: http://blog.jelastic.com/2015/12/17/create-your-own-marketplace-with-applica... Then consumers like myself would, by one click get a fully working XWiki benefitting from Pay-Per-Use model of Jelastic... Gerritjan Koekkoek Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS Visit our website Facebook email ________________________________________ From: users <users-bounces@xwiki.org> on behalf of Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com> Sent: 23 May 2016 15:43:49 To: XWiki Users Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki on Jelastic See http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Performances#HMemory On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Jesse Bright <jesse@abrightfamily.com> wrote:
What kind of resources were allocated to your sever? The minimum values allowed by Jelastic, in my experience, are inadequate to run Xwiki. Unfortunately their one-click install does not set the server up for you as well but this is not really expected.
Regards,
Jesse
On May 23, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerritjan@cdlsworld.org> wrote:
Hi,
I've experimented with Jelastic. To my pleasant surprise in their marketplace there is XWiki.
It promises a click and run setup; that could help making XWiki popular.
But the experience was very disappointing. I think this will actually damage popularity.
What I noticed:
* Jelastic marketplace XWiki is based on a Milestone Relase instead of a stable release. * It is deployed on a tomcat instance; but the settings are such that you get the Upgrade wizard quite conveniently (+++) but then clicking "install" results in a very slow (-----) process that, in my case, never succeeded in a up-and-running XWiki * The Tomcat log shows memory problems, and this is confirmed to the user with Elastic emails that Tomcat is reaching limits
Would it not be useful if somebody from the community would configure a much better XWiki experience? My knowledge is not good enough to do the Administrator stuff required
Gerritjan Koekkoek Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> email<gerritjan@cdlsworld.org>
_______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
On 23 May 2016, at 16:16, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerritjan@cdlsworld.org> wrote:
My question is: Would somebody like to volunteer to create a Jelastic market place configuration of Xwiki? This would help making XWIki more popular.
FTR I’m working on creating an official docker image of XWiki on dockerhub: https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/docker-xwiki/tree/VERSION2 Not too far from having a first fully working version.
I have no doubt it is possible to configure XWiki the manual way (like described in the administrator guide) but that would only help people who consider themselves technical enough to configure their own server....(i'm not seeing myself as such a person, I admire people that can configure a server)
I think the Jelastic Market place targets a audience that currently will stick with the hosting offered by XWiki SAS or with the free Cloud option (on the farm) You just request a XWiki instance and you get back a username-password with that you can login as admin...
How to make a XWiki marketplace app is described here: http://blog.jelastic.com/2015/12/17/create-your-own-marketplace-with-applica...
Then consumers like myself would, by one click get a fully working XWiki benefitting from Pay-Per-Use model of Jelastic…
FTR I know that XWiki SAS is working on a new version of its cloud offer with some very competitive pricing. Stay tuned! Ofc, if someone could take care of the jelastic xwiki config that would be great too. Thanks -Vincent
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________________________________________ From: users <users-bounces@xwiki.org> on behalf of Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com> Sent: 23 May 2016 15:43:49 To: XWiki Users Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki on Jelastic
See http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Performances#HMemory
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Jesse Bright <jesse@abrightfamily.com> wrote:
What kind of resources were allocated to your sever? The minimum values allowed by Jelastic, in my experience, are inadequate to run Xwiki. Unfortunately their one-click install does not set the server up for you as well but this is not really expected.
Regards,
Jesse
On May 23, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerritjan@cdlsworld.org> wrote:
Hi,
I've experimented with Jelastic. To my pleasant surprise in their marketplace there is XWiki.
It promises a click and run setup; that could help making XWiki popular.
But the experience was very disappointing. I think this will actually damage popularity.
What I noticed:
* Jelastic marketplace XWiki is based on a Milestone Relase instead of a stable release. * It is deployed on a tomcat instance; but the settings are such that you get the Upgrade wizard quite conveniently (+++) but then clicking "install" results in a very slow (-----) process that, in my case, never succeeded in a up-and-running XWiki * The Tomcat log shows memory problems, and this is confirmed to the user with Elastic emails that Tomcat is reaching limits
Would it not be useful if somebody from the community would configure a much better XWiki experience? My knowledge is not good enough to do the Administrator stuff required
Gerritjan Koekkoek Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> email<gerritjan@cdlsworld.org> org/mailman/listinfo/users
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