Hi Mattia, As Vincent already stated it, XWiki was built precisely because its founder thought TWiki lacked some features required for enterprise use. As to the concerns yous state, here is how XWiki behaves: - Security & Access control: XWiki has a built-in powerful & easy to use access-rights management systems. You can decide who is allowed to read/write/comment any given page/space/wiki through a nice and easy to use interface. You can also integrate XWiki users with an existing LDAP user base through SSO to avoid doing the same job twice. - Statistics & Auditing: a brand new improved statistics module is scheduled to ship with the next release of XWiki Enterprise :-) It provides a quick view on a wide set of data (most active users, most seen & edited pages and many more). As for auditing, every page keeps an history of users who edited the page and the modifications they made. The history version comparison feature checks the 2 selected versions word by word to highlight exactly what part of the page have changed between the 2. - Usability & WYSIWYG editor: XWiki has a built-in WYSIWYG text editor that is constantly being improved by the community, with bugs fixed for almost every new release to make it ever more usable. The wiki also have a nice panel feature that let you choose exactly what type of content should be displayed on the right and left sides of any page (navigation links, user list, menus, backlinks...). The simple user mode keeps only the features a new user needs to start working, hiding the more advanced stuff from his eyes. 2 other points might be of interest to you regarding the use of a wiki in a large enterprise: - XWiki features a powerful scripting system that makes it easy to integrate it with existing data sources (such as SAP) -> you can retrieve information already stored in other enterprise systems and let your users see it and interact with it right into the wiki, which helps saving time and bringing value to the. - The XWiki Open-Source project is supported by XPertNet SARL, the company founded by XWiki's creator to offer professional services & support for XWiki users. Large companies tend to look for professionnal support. With XWiki you can get the help of a team strong of 20+ XWiki experts who are used to answering the requirements of large companies. I hope that some of this information will help you make your choice :-) There was another thread on the same topic (XWiki vs TWiki) that ran some time ago, you can access it here: http://www.nabble.com/xwiki-vs-twiki-tf3956100.html#a11228774 Guillaume Product Manager Disclaimer: I am an employee of XPertNet... and I like XWiki a lot :-) I would be glad to see answers from other XWiki users that have used one or both solutions. On 27/11/2007, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:

Hi Mattia,

On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:55 AM, mattia_temp-newsgroup@yahoo.it wrote:

Hi everybody!!

Sorry for the "rude" title, but i'm evaluating which wiki propose in a large enterprise and, rightnow, i'm facing with this dilemma...[image: hmm]

I'd like someone to share his experience/knowledge and,please, help me to point out the main differences between those two products.

My main concerns are related with usability (especially regarding the WYSIWYG editor) security, access control, statistics and auditing features...

I'd really appreciate any help.

Thank you

Just so that everyone knows, here's the thread that started Mattia's post: http://www.wikimatrix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=1587#p1587

Thanks -Vincent

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Hi Robert, sure there is :-) The rename and delete features are displayed in the top menu bar thanks to a velocity template. The only thing you need to do is to edit that template to remove them from the view of casual "simple mode" users (cf http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/UserGuide/PageEditing). For this you need to find "menuview.vm" in the albatross skin and edit it so as to add the #if($isAdvancedUser) condition before the Action menu. This will prevent that menu from showing up for people using the simple mode. As for comments and attachements, you have 2 choices: - *removing them from your whole wiki: * - You need to change the XWiki.XWikiPreferences class like this: 1. Go to <server>/xwiki/bin/edit/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=class 2. Add a new property called showcomments of type String Class 3. Go to <server>/xwiki/bin/edit/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=object&classname=XWiki.XWikiPreferences and write no in the showcomments field That's it, the comments are gone. If you want to re-enable comments, replace the "no" value with "yes" If you want to disable attaachments, too, do the same with a property named showattachments. cf http://www.nabble.com/Disable-and-hide-comments-tf4750825.html#a13585583 - *removing them on a per page basis:* - For disabling comments on a page basis, you can use: #set ($showcomments=0) For disabling attachments on a page basis you can use: #set ($showattachments=0) - cf http://www.nabble.com/Page-preferences-tf4632206.html#a13228056 Please check the mailing list archive at http://www.nabble.com/XWiki-f2563.html, a lot of information is available there to answer your questions. Hope this helps, Guillaume On 27/11/2007, Robert Hercz <robert.hercz@teletopia.com> wrote:

Hi,

PMFJI, we're also evaluating Xwiki (and will soon also install TWiki to compare).

A few things we've noticed, is that the "rename" and "delete" function is readily available just about all over the place. As is "comments" and "attachments". I've found no apparent way to remove these functions from pages. (basically, I want "rename" and "delete" to be available to Admin and Creator only, if possible, and I want to disable "comments" and "attachments" from pages I don't need them).

Is there a way to accomplish this?

Best regards,

Robert

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*From:* users-bounces@xwiki.org [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] *On Behalf Of *Guillaume Lerouge *Sent:* 27. november 2007 11:39 *To:* XWiki Users *Subject:* Re: [xwiki-users] Help needed :o) - Xwiki vs. Twiki

Hi Mattia,

As Vincent already stated it, XWiki was built precisely because its founder thought TWiki lacked some features required for enterprise use.

As to the concerns yous state, here is how XWiki behaves:

- Security & Access control: XWiki has a built-in powerful & easy to use access-rights management systems. You can decide who is allowed to read/write/comment any given page/space/wiki through a nice and easy to use interface. You can also integrate XWiki users with an existing LDAP user base through SSO to avoid doing the same job twice. - Statistics & Auditing: a brand new improved statistics module is scheduled to ship with the next release of XWiki Enterprise :-) It provides a quick view on a wide set of data (most active users, most seen & edited pages and many more). As for auditing, every page keeps an history of users who edited the page and the modifications they made. The history version comparison feature checks the 2 selected versions word by word to highlight exactly what part of the page have changed between the 2. - Usability & WYSIWYG editor: XWiki has a built-in WYSIWYG text editor that is constantly being improved by the community, with bugs fixed for almost every new release to make it ever more usable. The wiki also have a nice panel feature that let you choose exactly what type of content should be displayed on the right and left sides of any page (navigation links, user list, menus, backlinks...). The simple user mode keeps only the features a new user needs to start working, hiding the more advanced stuff from his eyes.

2 other points might be of interest to you regarding the use of a wiki in a large enterprise:

- XWiki features a powerful scripting system that makes it easy to integrate it with existing data sources (such as SAP) -> you can retrieve information already stored in other enterprise systems and let your users see it and interact with it right into the wiki, which helps saving time and bringing value to the. - The XWiki Open-Source project is supported by XPertNet SARL, the company founded by XWiki's creator to offer professional services & support for XWiki users. Large companies tend to look for professionnal support. With XWiki you can get the help of a team strong of 20+ XWiki experts who are used to answering the requirements of large companies.

I hope that some of this information will help you make your choice :-)

There was another thread on the same topic (XWiki vs TWiki) that ran some time ago, you can access it here: http://www.nabble.com/xwiki-vs-twiki-tf3956100.html#a11228774

Guillaume

Product Manager

Disclaimer: I am an employee of XPertNet... and I like XWiki a lot :-) I would be glad to see answers from other XWiki users that have used one or both solutions.

On 27/11/2007, *Vincent Massol* <vincent@massol.net> wrote:

Hi Mattia,

On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:55 AM, mattia_temp-newsgroup@yahoo.it wrote:

Hi everybody!!

Sorry for the "rude" title, but i'm evaluating which wiki propose in a large enterprise and, rightnow, i'm facing with this dilemma... [image: hmm]

I'd like someone to share his experience/knowledge and,please, help me to point out the main differences between those two products.

My main concerns are related with usability (especially regarding the WYSIWYG editor) security, access control, statistics and auditing features...

I'd really appreciate any help.

Thank you

Just so that everyone knows, here's the thread that started Mattia's post:

http://www.wikimatrix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=1587#p1587

Thanks

-Vincent

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