AW: [xwiki-users] .xar file for UserGuide available?
Well, I don't know... Of course, having dead links in the help isn't nice, but would this behavior be different in pdf? An xar would give anyone the possibility to extend the existing content, but I don't know if anyone would do this. Because of its own space, I wouldn't mind "messing up" my installation - a later removal would be possible too. I can work with either options. Choose the one you think more people would use or the one which is less work. Thanks, Hanspeter -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Vincent Massol [mailto:vincent@massol.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 08. Juni 2007 09:35 An: xwiki-users@objectweb.org Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] .xar file for UserGuide available? On Jun 8, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Klapf Hanspeter wrote:
Thanks for your fast reply!!
I think a pdf-version would be better for print, while working on my instance I'd prefer an xar.
I'd like to better understand this. IMO a XAR is less usable because: 1) it requires you to install it in your wiki and you usually don't want to have a xwiki user guide in your own wiki as your wiki is not about xwiki (usually :)) 2) it's harder because you need to navigate/open other windows because you'll be working on one page while you'll need to check the user guide at the same time 3) Beware that the user guide has external links to other parts of xwiki.org which will lead to non-existing page when we export it (like links to the Code Zone for example). OTOH, having a XAR is nice if you want to provide a user guide on, your own wiki for your users. Only issue is that it'll be a generic user guide and not a user guide adapted to your own usage of XWiki. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
The CodeZone-Application for download gave me this idea.
Thanks a lot, Hanspeter
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Vincent Massol [mailto:vincent@massol.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 08. Juni 2007 08:04 An: xwiki-users@objectweb.org Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] .xar file for UserGuide available?
Hi Hanspeter,
On Jun 8, 2007, at 7:52 AM, hanspeter.klapf@mag.linz.at wrote:
Hello,
for some Environments (e.g. my Notebook) an local installation of the UserGuide-Space on xwiki.org would be helpful. Is a .xar file available to import the documents in my own xwiki-instance?
Yes that's a good idea and easy enough to do. However don't you think a PDF version would be even better? (You won't have to import it in your wiki and mess it up).
We have added support for exporting several pages of a xwiki site to PDF in XWiki 1.1M1 (but no UI yet) so I guess we could try this on xwiki.org and see how it works.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Klapf Hanspeter wrote:
Well, I don't know... Of course, having dead links in the help isn't nice, but would this behavior be different in pdf? An xar would give anyone the possibility to extend the existing content, but I don't know if anyone would do this.
I'd rather people contribute to xwiki.org. It's open for anyone to help.
Because of its own space, I wouldn't mind "messing up" my installation - a later removal would be possible too.
I can work with either options. Choose the one you think more people would use or the one which is less work.
Ok thanks. Will do some experimentations as I haven't tried the multi page PDF export yet. -Vincent
Thanks, Hanspeter
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Vincent Massol [mailto:vincent@massol.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 08. Juni 2007 09:35 An: xwiki-users@objectweb.org Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] .xar file for UserGuide available?
On Jun 8, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Klapf Hanspeter wrote:
Thanks for your fast reply!!
I think a pdf-version would be better for print, while working on my instance I'd prefer an xar.
I'd like to better understand this.
IMO a XAR is less usable because: 1) it requires you to install it in your wiki and you usually don't want to have a xwiki user guide in your own wiki as your wiki is not about xwiki (usually :)) 2) it's harder because you need to navigate/open other windows because you'll be working on one page while you'll need to check the user guide at the same time 3) Beware that the user guide has external links to other parts of xwiki.org which will lead to non-existing page when we export it (like links to the Code Zone for example).
OTOH, having a XAR is nice if you want to provide a user guide on, your own wiki for your users. Only issue is that it'll be a generic user guide and not a user guide adapted to your own usage of XWiki.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
The CodeZone-Application for download gave me this idea.
Thanks a lot, Hanspeter
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Vincent Massol [mailto:vincent@massol.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 08. Juni 2007 08:04 An: xwiki-users@objectweb.org Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] .xar file for UserGuide available?
Hi Hanspeter,
On Jun 8, 2007, at 7:52 AM, hanspeter.klapf@mag.linz.at wrote:
Hello,
for some Environments (e.g. my Notebook) an local installation of the UserGuide-Space on xwiki.org would be helpful. Is a .xar file available to import the documents in my own xwiki-instance?
Yes that's a good idea and easy enough to do. However don't you think a PDF version would be even better? (You won't have to import it in your wiki and mess it up).
We have added support for exporting several pages of a xwiki site to PDF in XWiki 1.1M1 (but no UI yet) so I guess we could try this on xwiki.org and see how it works.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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