On 5/28/07, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net> wrote:
Hi Sergiu,
On May 27, 2007, at 9:28 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Hi,
The current structure of the menu is "Edit, Show, Print, Delete, Rename", with Print containing "Preview, PDF", and we've also added RTF recently. Print is not a good name for this menu, because: - it is imperative. I'd expect the browser to actually print something, if I didn't know how browsers work. - PDF and RTF are not actually printed stuff, so they don't quite fit in there. - We're also thinking of adding a XAR quick export, which does not fit anywhere right now
So, a better structure would be: "Edit, Show, Export, Delete, Rename", with Export containing "PDF, RTF, XML, XAR". Print preview should be renamed to "Printable version" or something similar, and should go in "Show" or "Export" (the former is better).
Ludovic says that "Printable version" is too long, but this is the term used on most sites (or Printer friendly version), and it's not longer than "Page Access Rights", for instance, which is another submenu entry.
My view on this:
* We need to decide if we allow users to do XAR exports or not. IF XAR export is considered an admin action then it should go in the Administration page (in the export tab)
I don't know if the XAR export is for admins only, but it's certainly for advanced users only. So in the Simple user mode it shouldn't be in the menu. I think it could be used by normal users. There's a difference between developer and administrator, and a developer might want to export his ultra-cool panel he just developed and post it on xwiki.org, or attach it to a JIRA issue.
* I think we need to keep the top menu as empty as possible. I would prefer we move export actions somewhere else.
Perhaps this is something for a different skin. Albatross performs poorly on small screens (including 1024x768). Indeed, the current menu is a bit too crowded. Normal users don't want to view the history, export the XML version, or edit classes. A normal user, without admin rights and in Simple mode, has the following menu: Edit Show -> Comments, Attachments, History Print -> Preview, PDF Rename The comments and attachments are displayed at the bottom of the page, and the history is not something everybody wants to see. So this menu could be removed. Such a basic user might be interested in the PrinterFriendly, PDF or RTF version, but not XML or XAR. These modes could all go in a toolbar with icons, but where to put this toolbar?
* I think we need a page for advanced operations/information (could be one or 2 pages). Here are some stuff we could put in there: - Exports - RSS feeds for the space/page - Incoming links/Outgoing links - Orphaned pages - History - Statistics
+1
* It could be done with an "Advanced" button in the top menu or some icons at the top of each page like an info icon for going to an information page listing incoming/outgoing links, orphaned pages, stats for the page, rss feeds, etc. We could have another button for exports. * For the print I would leave the "Print" button but clicking on it would do print preview. This is because it's how browsers work. You don't print directly, you use the browser print feature so I think it's ok to generate the printable page. We could popup a dialog box telling the user the click the print button of their browser or maybe we could call it directly (not sure if this works for all browsers).
I still think it's better under Show, or an icon on a toolbar.
WDYT?
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