Generally, I like the proposal. A sticky save button is clearly the solution. However, the mobile view is a mess: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/mobile.p... Side note: I think it`s a good time to address the "Save & Continue" + "Save & View" duality that I found deeply confusing when I first started with XWiki. If we take it down to only 2 buttons (Save + Cancel), it will improve the mobile view as well. My last note about the proposal is related to the sticky state visible in http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBa... ... I`m not sure on the technical aspects, but I would still prefer it to "stick" only to the content area and not overflow to the entire width of the screen and go into panels or whatever the skin might have around the content area (in edit mode). Thanks, Eduard On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
+1 for the solution 3: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ IdeaVisibleSave/smallViewPort.png
Hi Guillaume,
They are not separate proposals, just one, but it looks a bit different when it's fixed at bottom, versus in its position. Just wanted to make that clear.
2017-04-11 21:58 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Hi,
On 11 Apr 2017, at 21:25, Denis Gervalle <dgl@softec.lu> wrote:
Hi Caty, Very happy to see progress in this area, this is a real pain to
scroll
to the bottom of the document to save it, and there is a long time it is affecting us.
However, I am not really happy with your current proposal. I found the text area for the version summary way too small for the purpose.
Beginner users sometimes don't know what that is for. Somebody asked me to remove it all together :) you think it's too small :P
It should
IMO stay on a separate line in order to be large enough. Since this not always useful, it might, however, be collapsed somehow in certain circumstances.
Currently it is on a separate line. I tried to integrate everything in a single line, that will be always visible, although I agree we have many functionalities (autosave, summary, minor, preview, etc.) and they look a bit crowded.
I also wonder if just having some buttons on the top in addition to the bottom, wouldn’t be simpler and as efficient, even if the top feature is limited (just save / save&view).
Usually save is a the bottom. Still the same view will be also in Full Screen and the top area is already taken by the CkEditor controls, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ IdeaVisibleSave/fullScreen.png
Thanks, Caty
It might also work with your fixed bottom
UI, that might also be more limited than what you can do by scrolling.
I hope these are useful comments. I am also curious to see other opinions on this important feature.
For me, the issue with the always-on-bar is that it takes up space and thus reduces the available vertical space for editing content. Thus I find it interesting to have it on only one line and also to only have it at the bottom and not repeat it at the top. I’d really not like to see it at the top.
Thanks -Vincent
-- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 17:59, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac@gmail.com> wrote: Hi devs,
Some users have complained that when editing they don't know that they need to scroll in order to see the Save buttons.
This is a proposal that tackles: - Displaying the save buttons in a bottom area, when they are out of the viewport, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png - Reorganizing the bottom zone in order to compact all the save functions into a single bar - When the user scrolls, the buttons go into their position, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ IdeaVisibleSave/after.png
For the whole proposal and more screenshots, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave
WDYT?
Thanks, Caty
-- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project