October 2011 - xwiki-users@xwiki.org

[xwiki-users] Buttons when creating a new page
by Stéphanie 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

Hello, When I create a new page, there are four buttons on the bottom of my page : - PREVIEW - SAVE & CONTINUE - SAVE & VIEW - CANCEL Is there a possibility to don't see some of these buttons ? For example, I just want to see buttons "SAVE & VIEW" and "CANCEL". Thank you for your response. Best regards, Stéphanie -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Buttons-when-creating-a-new-page-tp693186… Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [xwiki-users] XOffice not downloading pages, missing attachments
by Haru Mamburu 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

Hi, Paul, IMHO, from one side Xoffice - great tool, from other - it's almost useless: - MS Word is not the only editor in the PC world - MS Word is relatively "heavy" application. - Installation process is far from seamless - huge headache for people "who have almost no free time and are not interested in learning yet another program". They will have to spend 10 times more time on installing it, than on mastering WYSIWYG editor. Just try it on 10 users, you will see the difference :-) - Localization (here I mean cyrillic names) Much more versatile tool - web browser. " Everyone we talked to about editing a wiki document via the web interface was simply not interested." When human has choice to learn or skip learning with the same final result, usually choice is obvious. Nobody ever will find browser more useful, then MS Word, until you will close MS Word option forever. That's human. Meanwhile each and every user wil find it more useful for them, then "old-styled-word" editing. So, in this case - CHOICE is bad thing to move forward. Try it on regular users and you will feel it yourself. Last century people mastered MS Word, this century people found it extrafeatured, simplified as much as possible editing process and made wiki-cloud based systems default for document workflow. So, for more or less big projects: Windows and Word purchase looks insane versus open source OS + web browser. As I understand, it's the only reason, why other project do not such tools (like XOffice). I do have MS Word on my Windows 7 machine, but I don't remember when I used it last time to EDIT documents. ;) As for me, XWiki has one of the best in class web-based WISIWYG editor and all known for me users found it easy to use: NO NEED to dig into XWiki Syntax AT ALL. Just try other solutions to compare. "The killer feature is that normal users can create a document and copy-paste screenshots into a wiki document." This really has sence to implement into WISYWIG editor, but don't think it's a primary necessity. For me, for example, more critical - less complicated mechanism of anchor management. Probably, these reasons are slowly pushing Xoffice aside of mainstream. Kind regards. Dmitry Bakbardin 24 октября 2011, 18:36 от Paul Harris <harris.pc(a)gmail.com>: > The killer feature is that normal users can create a document and copy-paste > screenshots into a wiki document. > That cannot be done with (almost) any web wiki editor I can find at present. > > Every person we showed it to loved it, and was willing to try editing a > document on the wiki. > Everyone we talked to about editing a wiki document via the web interface > was simply not interested. > We work with people who have almost no free time and are not interested in > learning yet another program (ie web-wiki)... They know MS Word well, they > are already read to write content. > > I don't understand why you aren't pushing this simple but powerful component > more. I don't see it mentioned on wikipedia, or wikimatrix. > I think if you made sure xoffice worked, and let people know it existed, > then more people would use xwiki. Its a killer feature and I don't > understand why its not on billboards on the sides of freeways. > > Regards, > Paul > > On 24 October 2011 20:35, Florin Ciubotaru <florin.ciubotaru(a)xwiki.com>wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > If you didn't start your documentation yet and you don't have any legacy > > documents, I'd recommend using a pure web solution like XWiki. If you use > > MS > > Office for advanced content, you will have issues pushing that content to > > the wiki anyway. > > I created XOffice a few years ago, when MS Office was a lot more dominant > > and web editors were still weak(including the one used by XWiki), but the > > situation is quite different now. > > > > Indeed there was no development on it for the past year. > > If you have critical issues with XOffice, it may be one of the following: > > - you are using a localized version of Office or Windows (there are older > > known issues with those) > > - there is a conflict with newer XWiki versions. > > > > The MS Office and Windows behavior and security settings are different for > > versions released on other languages. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but > > that's the way it is. > > I've been receiving quite a few requests for a new release. However I could > > only do some bug fixing only for the En/En environment, since it's a pain > > to > > test and fix other versions. > > > > Thanks, > > Florin Ciubotau > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > Indeed nobody is actively working on it at the moment and I was about to > > > send a mail this week to propose to retire it and move it to the contrib > > > repository since nobody in the xwiki committers are active on it and we > > want > > > to keep a good quality on the software that we make available. > > > > > > The only alternative would be someone stepping up and willing to work on > > it > > > and ensure it works with latest XWiki Enterprise versions. See that we > > have > > > nobody active on it, we could throw a vote to grandfather that person as > > an > > > XOffice committer so that he/she can easily work on it. > > > > > > Since you already fixed some bugs on it maybe you'd be interested to help > > > out? > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > -Vincent > > > > > > On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Paul Harris wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I personally fixed a few bugs in xoffice at the start of the year, > > which > > > was > > > > released in XOffice 1.1. That was a long time ago, and we have not > > been > > > > using xoffice in the meantime (not building documentation yet). Now it > > > is > > > > time to use it, and I'm having a lot of trouble. > > > > > > > > I would post a bug to JIRA if it were a single problem, but it appears > > > that > > > > xoffice is fundamentally broken as I can't go longer than 30 seconds > > > without > > > > hitting a road block. > > > > Does anyone use it? > > > > > > > > * For some pages with images, when I click Edit, the text appears with > > > blank > > > > boxes for the images. > > > > > > > > * I am able to do the following: I edit a text-only page, and > > copy-paste > > > in > > > > an image, then click Publish. Stop and restart Word, and it is able to > > > Edit > > > > the page WITH THE IMAGE correctly. Seems strange that it works for > > this > > > > page, but not the other. > > > > > > > > * Some pages cannot be edited. I click Edit and it either doesn't seem > > > to > > > > hear the button click, OR it will pop up "Opening page..." progress > > > dialog, > > > > which never disappears. > > > > > > > > These are serious roadblock bugs, am I the only one seeing this, or is > > > this > > > > so buggy that noone else is using it regularly? > > > > > > > > This is version 1.1 (released early 2011), with Word 2010, on Vista, > > > freshly > > > > installed with not much else on the laptop. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > > > users mailing list > > > users(a)xwiki.org > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list > > users(a)xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >

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[xwiki-users] XOffice not downloading pages, missing attachments
by Paul Harris 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Hi all, I personally fixed a few bugs in xoffice at the start of the year, which was released in XOffice 1.1. That was a long time ago, and we have not been using xoffice in the meantime (not building documentation yet). Now it is time to use it, and I'm having a lot of trouble. I would post a bug to JIRA if it were a single problem, but it appears that xoffice is fundamentally broken as I can't go longer than 30 seconds without hitting a road block. Does anyone use it? * For some pages with images, when I click Edit, the text appears with blank boxes for the images. * I am able to do the following: I edit a text-only page, and copy-paste in an image, then click Publish. Stop and restart Word, and it is able to Edit the page WITH THE IMAGE correctly. Seems strange that it works for this page, but not the other. * Some pages cannot be edited. I click Edit and it either doesn't seem to hear the button click, OR it will pop up "Opening page..." progress dialog, which never disappears. These are serious roadblock bugs, am I the only one seeing this, or is this so buggy that noone else is using it regularly? This is version 1.1 (released early 2011), with Word 2010, on Vista, freshly installed with not much else on the laptop. thanks Paul

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[xwiki-users] xoffice install not working
by Paul Harris 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Hi all, Is anyone able to install XOffice? I get messages re "MyComputer is not a trusted zone" or similar. Is XOffice going to be dropped going forward? Its the main reason we chose xwiki. Thanks Paul

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[xwiki-users] 4Developers: more important issues regarding to XE 3.3 Roadmap
by Eugen Colesnicov 20 Oct '11

20 Oct '11

Hello developers! I seen your thread about XE 3.3 Roadmap + Finishing the 3.x cycle. In this post also described jira-requests, which you planned to resolve in a near future. All is great, the general strategy and each step are right, but also exists some other important issues (I think that its are important) and I want to put your attention on its. If is it possible, can you analyze possibility to include these issues in your nearly plans? 1. XE-1032 - XWiki 3.2 totally cannot work on Oracle (upgrade & fresh install failed). I think, it is important issue, because supporting of Oracle are declared - but in realty XE 3.2 is not supporting Oracle. To the future, maybe is good proposal, same as you wrote in a 3.2 release notes - which browsers are tested & supporting - also will write witch DB are tested & supporting. I can test new releases on Oracle. 2. XE-324 - allow special (russian and asian) characters in attachment names - very old issue, but I think is important, because without it - you cannot declare that XWiki have normal multi-language support. All modern web-platforms & applications now have this possibility (wikis, web-mails, social applications, etc.) only XWiki is lagging... 3. XWIKI-2870 - Ability to select query language in Database List property. This is more for developers, and also very old issue. I think it is important, because if you did something modern (in this case - XWQL) - need to support this in all "parts" of platform... If you didn't do this - your great work for modern features - looks like as "garbage" - I cannot use XWQL in Database List property - as a result - I am not using XWQL at all, because I don't want to write queries 2 times. If is it possible, can you analyze possibility to include these issues in your nearly plans? PS. Maybe another users know some more important unresolved issues? I think, user opinions will be interesting for developers! Thanks beforehand! Eugen Colesnicov -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/4Developers-more-important-issues-regardi… Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [xwiki-users] 4Developers: more important issues regarding to XE 3.3 Roadmap
by Haru Mamburu 20 Oct '11

20 Oct '11

Yes I do have JIRA account, just try to vote for your own issues, I don't think you will succeed. Have a look at file attached. :-) Dmitry 20 октября 2011, 16:47 от Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Haru Mamburu <haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru> wrote: > > Thank you, Caleb, > > > > But JIRA says, that I can't vote on the topics I issued, so 0 means +1 :-) > > That's weird, do you have an account on jira ? > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Dmitry > > > > 20 октября 2011, 12:49 от Caleb James DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com>: > >> I have just assigned myself XWIKI-6918 and XWIKI-6917, the bugs. > >> You can go ahead and vote on the feature requests (resume download and webdav access) and we can see where things go from there. > >> > >> Caleb > >> > >> On 10/20/2011 04:02 AM, Haru Mamburu wrote: > >> > Hi, All > >> > > >> > Also, I'd add all bug fixes with file storage system, because for now, I have had to switch off (in 3.2): > >> > > >> > - versioning of attachment > >> > - recycle bin for attachment > >> > > >> > to use it more or less seamless. Otherwise, there is a big mess with deleted attachment occure. Everything I found, "JIRAded" already: XWIKI-6989, XWIKI-6921, XWIKI-6918, XWIKI-6917. > >> > Would be nice also to have resume download for big files: XWIKI-6921 > >> > > >> > So, we have a new feature, but with a very limited functionality, that really works. Moreover, not each and every core functions really support attachments, stored in FS. For projects with big and huge attachments these topics are essential, IMO. > >> > > >> > Some additional support for cyrillic XWIKI-6955 is also welcome to put in plan. :-) > >> > > >> > Best regards, > >> > > >> > Dmitry Bakbardin > >> > > >> > > >> > 20 октября 2011, 11:25 от Eugen Colesnicov <ecolesnicov(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> Hello developers! > >> >> > >> >> I seen your thread about XE 3.3 Roadmap + Finishing the 3.x cycle. In this > >> >> post also described jira-requests, which you planned to resolve in a near > >> >> future. > >> >> > >> >> All is great, the general strategy and each step are right, but also exists > >> >> some other important issues (I think that its are important) and I want to > >> >> put your attention on its. If is it possible, can you analyze possibility to > >> >> include these issues in your nearly plans? > >> >> > >> >> 1. XE-1032 - XWiki 3.2 totally cannot work on Oracle (upgrade & fresh > >> >> install failed). I think, it is important issue, because supporting of > >> >> Oracle are declared - but in realty XE 3.2 is not supporting Oracle. > >> >> > >> >> To the future, maybe is good proposal, same as you wrote in a 3.2 release > >> >> notes - which browsers are tested & supporting - also will write witch DB > >> >> are tested & supporting. I can test new releases on Oracle. > >> >> > >> >> 2. XE-324 - allow special (russian and asian) characters in attachment names > >> >> - very old issue, but I think is important, because without it - you cannot > >> >> declare that XWiki have normal multi-language support. All modern > >> >> web-platforms & applications now have this possibility (wikis, web-mails, > >> >> social applications, etc.) only XWiki is lagging... > >> >> > >> >> 3. XWIKI-2870 - Ability to select query language in Database List property. > >> >> This is more for developers, and also very old issue. I think it is > >> >> important, because if you did something modern (in this case - XWQL) - need > >> >> to support this in all "parts" of platform... If you didn't do this - your > >> >> great work for modern features - looks like as "garbage" - I cannot use XWQL > >> >> in Database List property - as a result - I am not using XWQL at all, > >> >> because I don't want to write queries 2 times. > >> >> > >> >> If is it possible, can you analyze possibility to include these issues in > >> >> your nearly plans? > >> >> > >> >> PS. Maybe another users know some more important unresolved issues? I think, > >> >> user opinions will be interesting for developers! > >> >> > >> >> Thanks beforehand! > >> >> Eugen Colesnicov > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/4Developers-more-important-issues-regardi… > >> >> Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> users mailing list > >> >> users(a)xwiki.org > >> >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > users mailing list > >> > users(a)xwiki.org > >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> users mailing list > >> users(a)xwiki.org > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list > > users(a)xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >

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[xwiki-users] Changing multiple objects index order
by Ashtar Communications 20 Oct '11

20 Oct '11

Hi, Can't quite seem to figure this one out on my own... Is there any way to change the "index" number of multiple objects of the same class attached to a page? I have a custom class with a number of properties, and a document with a number of instances of that class attached. I then have some custom display code on the Class Sheet which loops through all objects of the custom class to display them in order. The problem is that this is limited to displaying them in the order they were created. When I use the class editor on the page, I get the list: TestClass 0: Name TestClass 1: Name TestClass 2: Name etc.... The velocity loop which does the displaying always returns the objects in that order - 0,1, 2, etc.... #set($objs = $doc.getObjects('Admin.TestClass')) #foreach($obj in $objs) < do some custom display stuff with each $obj > #end Is it possible to programmatically change the order of these objects? Ultimately, I would like for the user to be able to drag and drop the order of objects to manually set the display order in a persistent way - much like the built-in Class Editor does for re-ordering multiple properties of a class. One workaround I have thought of is to include a property of the custom Class for something like "sort order" and then allow the user to modify this property, while leaving the underlying index order untouched. This seems clunky to me, though... Any thoughts? As always, help is much appreciated. Aaron

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[xwiki-users] Curriki vs PeerWise
by Asiri Rathnayake 19 Oct '11

19 Oct '11

Hi, We've been recently experimenting with PeerWise ( http://peerwise.cs.auckland.ac.nz/) which allows students to make / answer / rate simple multiple-choice style questions (there are a lot of social features as well). I was wondering if this kind of functionality is available in Curriki or any other XWiki derivative, it seemed implementing something like PeerWise on top of XWiki would be really interesting :) Many thanks for your comments. - Asiri

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[xwiki-users] Don't see how to change the title of my page
by Stéphanie 19 Oct '11

19 Oct '11

Hi everyone, I have a little problem (not really a problem, but it's been two weeks since I can't find how to do). I have a basic button : <form id="survey" action="${xwiki.getURL('MySpace.AppCreation')}" method="get"> <div> <input type="hidden" name="appSpace" value="MySpace"/> <input type="hidden" name="appTemplate" value="MySpace.ApplicationClassTemplate"/> <input type="hidden" name="appId" id="appId" value="SURVEY" /> <input type="hidden" name="appId2" id="appId2" value="$datetool.get('yyyyMMdd-HHmmss')" /> <input type="submit" class="button" value="${msg.get('AppCreation.form.submit')}"/> </div> </form> The page just show a button "Start the survey" Pressing the button creates a new page with this intermediate code : #set($appId = $request.get('appId')) #set($appId2 = $request.get('appId2')) #set($appName = "$appId$appId2") I store the space and other information too. And after I redirect to my new page : $response.sendRedirect($xwiki.getURL($targetDocName, 'inline', "template=${appTemplate}&parent=${targetDocParent}")) After that my survey appears (it's just a basic form), and the name of my page is for example : SURVEY20111013-165324 My problem is that the title of my page is also the name of my page. And I think it's not very beautiful for people who will answer my survey to see "SURVEY20111013-165324". I prefer them to see a title like "Survey". Is there a solution to change the title of my page and where do I exactly need to change this title ? Thank for your response, Stéphanie -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Don-t-see-how-to-change-the-title-of-my-p… Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
by Andrew Toskin 18 Oct '11

18 Oct '11

Mostly, I'd like to use Xwiki for personal notes. I've been using a desktop wiki program to take notes in class and plan out various projects, but if I could do this online, it'd the same no matter what machine I use it on. Also, partly, I'm playing around with the idea of starting a wiki site, and I'd use Xwiki if I ever get around to starting that, so this will help if/when I need to run the software on a dedicated server. If you’re interested in having a wiki hosted on this farm please send an email to the XWiki user mailing list<http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/MailingLists>with a subject of [myxwiki] new wiki request and explaining briefly what you want to use this wiki for (give a brief description). You’ll also need to register on myxwiki.org and give your user name in the mail, as well as the server name you want for your wiki (the name that will be used before .myxwiki.org to access the wiki). Then one of the community Admins will create it for you. -- Andrew

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