On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com> wrote:
No there is no default UI in this distribution, just flavors.
As I said in the previous mail you will have a flavor picker in which you will see the classic one and the others.
Of course other distributions of XWiki may still have default UI and don't let you choose a flavor like XE does.
I feel we`re having a bit of duplication here between the "default UI" and the "Flavor" steps. AFAICT, they do pretty much the same thing and should ideally be merged. Basically, the default UI mechanism should indicate the recommended flavor/ui (if any) for the war you have, but should also not enforce it, allowing you to go with whatever flavor you like. There's really no point in separating the 2 and I guess we are here because they were developed in separate efforts. Anyway, back to the original question of the thread, I reiterate my +1 for "Standard" (I'm not a fan of "classic", which I find awkward and a bit old-fashion/outdated :), specially if you consider people new to XWiki). Thanks, Eduard
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002@gmail.com> wrote:
When you download the war, you have no UI. At that point, I guess you will be proposed to install the default UI associated to your war (which, in this case, will be one and the same with the "Standard XWiki Flavor") OR choose from a list of available Flavors. In this case, I guess that "Standard XWiki Flavor" will not be listed in the flavors list, to avoid duplication.
If I got things right, then it sounds good to me to see the first option (i.e. featured) to be the "standard" and, below it, various alternatives for various/specialized use cases.
Thanks, Eduard
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Thomas Mortagne < thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
What about "Standard XWiki Flavor"? I think it was mentioned in previous discussions.
It`s basically what you get when you download. Once you start customizing or installing some other Flavor, it`s no longer "standard".
Note exactly. When you download XWiki you don't have any Flavor installed, you choose the classic/standard one among several others (ok maybe not several right now :)), it's just the first one listed.
That and the fact that we used to have, in older versions, a packaging
(for
the xar or war module, don`t remember) that featured "standard" in it`s name.
Thanks, Eduard
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com> wrote:
+1 for Classic
Classic sounds good. +1
2017-05-24 14:16 GMT+02:00 Olivier Seres <oseres@xwiki.com>:
> I m also in flavor of Classic Flavor for 3 reasons : > For the last 10 years, it was THE (only one) proposed flavor,
now we
might > have more than one > There is "Class" in classic , sound positive to me > It has a distinguishable name > > I find "xwiki flavour" confusing ( it implies that other flavors are > non-xwiki ones...) > > Olivier Sérès > > > Le 24 mai 2017 à 14:03, Thomas Mortagne < thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com> a > écrit : > > > >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu < sergiu@xwiki.org> > wrote: > >>> On 05/24/2017 05:51 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > >>> Hi devs, > >>> > >>> I'm getting closer to finish with the hard work around new platform > >>> flavor which is going to replace XE. > >>> > >>> Need to decide what user will see in the Flavor picker when installed > XWiki now. > >>> > >>> As a reminder we decided that this would be a generic flavor, not tied > >>> to any specific use case (so forget about "Knwonledge Base Flavor" > >>> :)). > >>> > >>> Here is a few ideas gathered in previous mails: > >>> * "XWiki Flavor" > >>> * "Default XWiki Flavor" > >>> * "Generic XWiki Flavor" > >>> * "Base XWiki Flavor" > >> > >> A few more ideas: > >> > >> * Classic > >> * Raw > >> * Starter > > > > Not a fan or "Raw". > > > > I like "Classic", might sound better than "Default" for most users. > > Not sure about "Starter". > > > >> > >>> "Generic" is probably a way too technical term. > >>> > >>> "Base" would be misleading IMO since it's not really a base flavor. > >>> Its primary goal is not to be used as a dependency (of course it's > >>> fine to have it as dependency if you just want to add pre installed > >>> extensions to the default flavor). It's a -1 for me. > >>> > >>> Frankly I would simply go for "XWiki Flavor". I know, it's not going > >>> to be the only flavor for XWiki but it's obvious when you actually see > >>> severals of those in the picker anyway and I find it nicer than > >>> "Default XWiki Flavor" which basically means the same thing since the > >>> XWiki core project does not plan to provide any other flavor. I'm also > >>> fine with "Default XWiki Favor" if others think it's a better name. > >>> > >>> WDYT ? > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sergiu Dumitriu > >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Mortagne >
-- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne